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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 0:14:15 GMT
Thanks bbbearsmom.I uninstalled and reinstalled for the second time and now it works.
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Post by linda72 on Aug 7, 2017 14:13:51 GMT
My update was this morning Becky, I've got a notification on my phone this morning(Monday) that I have a WW update. I'm afraid to do it since many seem to have problems with it!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 21:43:35 GMT
linda72,Mine is fine now.I was actually not putting in my whole screen name by mistake.After I figured it out it's been fine and I don't have to log in anymore.
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Post by linda72 on Aug 7, 2017 22:02:33 GMT
@beckyw2016, I got the update this morning and it seemed fine. I did not have to log in again, it just went to my home page. Whew!
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Post by bbbearsmom on Aug 8, 2017 0:30:11 GMT
At my meeting tonight my leader used this as a tie-in to the topic from the weekly: Stand Up to Stigma. She had the members talk about times people have commented on their weight. One woman was told by a doctor that she was too fat to be on the planet. Another one was picking up a neighbor's child at a parochial school and a nun made the comment that she sure was chubbier than the boy's mother. Another talked about how she would do it to herself, if she was eating ice cream in public she thought other people were thinking: what is that fat lady doing eating ice cream.
I looked at the weekly too and disagree with one of their think again examples. First the person is at the doctor and while the person had lost some weight the doctor didn't acknowledge the progress and reminded them they still needed to lose weight. In their mind the person agrees. WW rethought this to: stuff about the number on the scale isn't all that matters after all the person has set some non-scale goals. The next time this person is going to tell the doctor it's not only about the scale. To a doctor it is all about your scale number (also the type of foods you eat and exercise). Your blood sugar is not going to go down because of a non-scale victory, and the weight isn't coming off your knees. I leave this at this...
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Post by jamescat1 on Aug 8, 2017 0:54:29 GMT
The doctor isn't going tocare about non scale victories if the patient's weight is at a dangerous level for heart disease and other obesity related diseases. You are right. They are overdoing Beyond the Scale. When I was close to what I thought was goal last November, my doctor told me I needed to lose 10 more pounds. I didn't want to admit it, but she was right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 1:26:15 GMT
I agree with bbbearsmom and jamescat1.All the doctors are concerned about is your health and your lab work numbers.If these are too high what happens when you come up with diabetes or high cholesterol or other obese related diseases.I have had one dr tell me years ago I would probably die 10 years sooner because of my weight.I didn't like it and didn't do anything about it until a more recent dr told me if I didn't lose weight it could be a matter of life or death.That finally sunk in. jamescat1,You are doing great with your new plan and will be at goal before you know it.
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Post by Kitty on Aug 8, 2017 6:14:56 GMT
I agree that the doctor only thinks about the medical aspects. I think it can be difficult though for the doctor to thread the needle on what to say. As @beckyw2016, mentions sometimes it is what the doctor says that really sinks in. I don't want the doctor to be indifferent to my weight and act like that extra weight doesn't have an effect on health. Sometimes, we can kid ourself about all this and it may need a doctor telling us to really have it sink in. And, there are people out there who really don't know about overweight and how it can impact health. And, some (men especially) may not even realize that they are overweight. So, they may need that information.
At the same time, if this becomes nagging or shaming by the doctor then that wasn't effective. I remember when I was struggling with my weight, dreading going to the doctor. I knew he would say I needed to lose weight. I knew I needed to lose weight. I was a regained lifetime member so I kept going back to Weight Watchers and I would go a few meetings and then quit when I wasn't losing. For whatever reason, weight loss wasn't happening at that time. I felt helpless. I would have said I wanted to lose weight and that I was trying, but it didn't happen. I dreaded going to the doctor because of my failure.
In those situations the doctor's attitude is important. The best doctor I had at this time was very matter of fact and would mention that I needed to lose weight, but I didn't feel like he was lecturing me or looking down on me. The most maddening doctors to me were the ones who acted like weight loss was easy and really had only a superficial understanding of issues related to weight loss. That kind of doctor always made me feel like a failure.
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Post by chook on Aug 8, 2017 8:17:53 GMT
I joined a gym once, a very long time ago, and part of the joining membership was a full weigh/measure/ fitness assessment with fat % calculation, hip:waist ratio, cardiovascular risk assessment etc.
it was a guy fresh out of college doing my assessment and I can't say enough how impressed I was with him being able to state the problem with my weight without it being shameful or embarrassing. At one point he had my weight figure and my BMI figure side by side and just pointed to my weight and said this number is too high for this equation....he just talked about numbers, but also highlighted anything that wasn't a disaster (like my ab strength which was quite good, and my hip:waist ratio which was just a smudge outside the healthy range).
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Post by finreporter on Aug 8, 2017 17:37:46 GMT
I joined a gym once, a very long time ago, and part of the joining membership was a full weigh/measure/ fitness assessment with fat % calculation, hip:waist ratio, cardiovascular risk assessment etc. it was a guy fresh out of college doing my assessment and I can't say enough how impressed I was with him being able to state the problem with my weight without it being shameful or embarrassing. At one point he had my weight figure and my BMI figure side by side and just pointed to my weight and said this number is too high for this equation....he just talked about numbers, but also highlighted anything that wasn't a disaster (like my ab strength which was quite good, and my hip:waist ratio which was just a smudge outside the healthy range). chook, that's awesome! i love people that are able to speak about one needing to lose weight in a very pragmatic fashion. no judgements. one of my previous ob/gyns was like that. every time i had my appt with her she'd suggest weight watchers, but her tone was the same as if she was suggesting i go on birth control. people telling it like it is without sounding judgey are the best. sometimes it's what we need to hear.
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Post by wildcat on Aug 8, 2017 19:29:03 GMT
When my mom would go to the doctor for high blood pressure when I was growing up, our family doctor would always tell her "It's because you're too damn fat." We us that expression in my family to this day. Maybe if he hadn't also been really damn fat himself she would have found it offensive, but we all just found it hilarious - and true!
In all seriousness though, I think a doctor can talk about needing to lose weight while still acknowledging that your weight is down from last time - like a "keep doing what you're doing" kind of thing. I remember a doctor said that to me once when I was losing, and it was a neurologist so not even a situation where weight mattered - but it was still nice to hear.
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Post by linda72 on Aug 8, 2017 19:38:55 GMT
I think it's hard for doctors to tell patients they are fat or they need to lose weight. My doctor never said anything until I lost 50# and then she was thrilled. But, she also told me not to get "too thin" because she didn't like her "older female patients" to lose too much and risk other problems. Now, that was a back handed compliment for sure!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 21:44:36 GMT
I remember years ago when I was looking for a new Dr to go to.I wasn't even at my heaviest then but he wouldn't take me as a patient(I probably weighed 225 or so)unless I could lose 30 lbs in 6 months and he didn't think I could do it.I never went back.He was so rude to me I was actually crying when I left.My DH called him after I came home and the Dr ended up hanging up on him after my DH told him what he thought.That is the worst Dr I had ever been been to for just one visit.The rest have been nice.Even the Dr who finally got me to realize I needed to lose weight was nice about it.She even offered to go to bat for me with lap band surgery but I wanted to try on my own first.I am so glad I did.After losing 30 lbs she was already proud of me.
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