PROGRESSIVE DISCUSSION - MONDAY 4/30

So the JA is outraged over the comments made at the Correspondents Dinner. Well, I think from what I have heard and read that the comments went too far as well, but he has only himself to blame. Evidently as with most hypocrites it is fine to trash other people when you're doing the trashing, but becomes a totally different scenario when it is someone else doing it. I have decided that Melania must have a cast iron stomach. There's not enough money in the world to make it worth it for me to spend anytime whatsoever with that man, and to be married to him?!? That would surely be hell on earth. I hope she thinks the pay-off is worth it.

From what I am reading, the general consensus seems to be that Michael Cohen will roll on the JA. I don't know, but maybe. So far he's been able to keep most of his band of merry men in line. I suspect with the hope of pardons and money down the line.

Jackson is just going to be in the WH medical unit and no longer the JA's personal physician. Guess when you turn out to be an embarrassment, you should feel lucky not to be kicked completely to the curb.

I loved Ana Navaro's comments on the hypocrisy about the outrage over the comedians monologue at the WHCD ...she basically asked where was the outrage from the right when JA was trashing Rosie O Donnall, Megan Kelly, Mika B. & many many others. They called the use of the P....y word as "locker room talk"... but now feign outrage over the use at this dinner. As I said before in another post, I wish they hadn't stooped to JA level, but they did & now have to take the criticism thrown at them even if it's hypocritical coming from the Right. As for SHS, honestly did not feel sorry for her. She stands in front of reporters & knowing lies & treats the press with utter contempt. But now of course she will be a "martyr" with tons of sympathy coming her way. JA encouraged both her & KAC to attend. He wuzzes out & sends 2 women instead. WHY!?!?...Probably because he has no respect for them either.

As for Melania, no sympathy there either. If you watch her facial expressions closely, I think she is feeling disgust over the JA standing next to her, but I'm sure she is trapped into staying for now. .I suspect a "YUGE" payout for her after JA is out of office. Maybe "The Fixer" aka Michael Cohn brokered a deal between her & JA. LOL

I didn't watch the Correspondents Dinner. However, I had no idea there even was a comment that would be considered "going to far" with the perverts, liars, cheaters, thieves, soulless and heartless, thugs who are stinking up the White House these days.

Here's some words of comfort that might help those poor injured little snowflakes deal with such harsh and outrageous comments...

Payback is a bitch.
What goes around comes around.
You reap what you sow.
Karma hunts you down.
You get back from the Universe what you put into the Universe.

Didn't Melania's mother ever tell her that marrying for money is a tough way to earn a living?

We like and respect Ana Navarro also, she stands up for what she believes and always has intelligent comments.

At first I was upset that a woman (Fox) was attacking another woman (Sanders) then DH said "that is your humanity speaking". Good man he!

Good article looking at the other side of the coin.

"Let me tell you a few deplorable things that happened in America this weekend. Nearly 43 million people woke up in poverty in the richest country in the world. And 3.2 million Americans woke up without health insurance. A further 36 people died because of gun violence, bringing the total number of gun deaths in the US this year to 4,627.

All of that is deplorable. What is in absolutely no way deplorable or shocking or outrageous or unacceptable is a joke about eye shadow. You probably know what I mean – it was headline news on Sunday. But if you missed the controversy, the summary is that a comedian called Michelle Wolf made a gag about Sarah Sanders at the annual White House correspondents’ dinner in DC.

“I think [Sanders is] very resourceful,” Wolf said about the White House press secretary. “Like, she burns facts, and then she uses the ash to create a perfect smoky eye.”

Wolf was referencing Sanders’ well-documented history of defending Trump’s brazen lies. Earlier this month for example, Sanders defended Trump’s racist claims that women from Central America are raped at “levels that nobody has ever seen before”. She also justified Trump’s entirely unfounded claims that “millions and millions” of illegal votes are cast in America’s elections by saying that the president “strongly feels” that is the case. Sanders lectures the press about accuracy but spends her days helping Trump fuel racism and hate with shameless lies. Sanders, in brief, is a morally bankrupt person and Wolf was holding her to account.
Since when did 'perfect smokey eye' become an insult, America?

"Sanders may be a morally bankrupt person but guess what? She’s also a wife and mother and it is really very mean for Wolf to stoop so low as to mention Sanders’ eye shadow. Can you imagine the devastating psychological impact of having a comedian reference your affinity for a smoky eye? Can you imagine how damaged her kids must be by the reference to their mum’s makeup?"

Personally, I can’t imagine any of this, but it seems plenty of other people can. MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski, for example, tweeted: “Watching a wife and mother be humiliated on national television for her looks is deplorable. I have experienced insults about my appearance from the president. All women have a duty to unite when these attacks happen and the WHCA owes Sarah an apology.”

Maggie Haberman, the New York Times’ White House correspondent, similarly tweeted: “That @presssec sat and absorbed intense criticism of her physical appearance, her job performance, and so forth, instead of walking out, on national television, was impressive.” Haberman made sure to tag Sanders in the speech so that the press secretary would be sure to know just how outraged she was. Andrea Mitchell from NBC also tagged the press secretary in a tweet stating that an apology is owed to Sanders.

Insulting someone’s appearance is never a good look, no matter how awful a person they may be. But nothing in Wolf’s routine could possibly be construed as “intense criticism of [Sanders’] physical appearance”. And absolutely nothing in Wolf’s routine demands an apology to the press secretary.

If anything, the likes of Haberman, Brzezinski and Mitchell owe America an apology. They’re all incredibly smart women with extremely important jobs. They’re supposed to be holding power to account, not sucking up to it. Rushing to defend Sanders under a veil of faux-feminism is beneath all of them.

What’s more, urging Wolf to apologize for what should have been an uncontroversial joke sends an incredibly dangerous message. It suggests that it’s not OK to criticize the president and his people. And it lends credence to Trump’s repeated claims that the mainstream media is out to get him.


Last week the US dropped two places in the Reporters Without Borders 2018 World Press Freedom Index, with Trump’s continuous attacks on the media cited as a reason for the decline. We live in a very worrying time for free speech. Indeed, on Sunday it was reported that the US Department of Justice removed a section about the “need for free press” from its internal manual. Now more than ever, journalists need to be courageous.

The media needs to make sure it is speaking truth to power, not kowtowing to the powerful. However, as Wolf mentioned in her speech, even the liberal media is under Trump’s spell. “You pretend like you hate him, but I think you love him. I think what no one in this room wants to admit is that Trump has helped all of you. He’s helped you sell your papers and your books and your TV. You helped create this monster, and now you’re profiting off of him.”

Wolf is absolutely right. We all ought to do a lot more soul-searching about how we’re covering the Trump administration. That should have been the headline that came out of Wolf’s speech; not controversy about eye shadow.

Wolf’s words should have inspired introspection amongst the press, not a liberal backlash. So, please, spare me the faux feminist outrage about Sanders. It was just a joke. The response to it, however, has been no laughing matter. "
......Arwa Mahdawi

While this will be John McCain's last term, I hope he will make it the one that really counts--the one where he stands up to be counted and doesn't bow to the current GOP game plan of we've got to keep the JA's base happy no matter what the cost.

What? A woman was made fun of because of her looks? Well, I never! Get out! What an outrage! Surely you jest. I guess there truly is a first time for everything. Has that ever happened before?

All these perfect, caring, concerned women coming to Sanders defense make me sick. Foolish things. Are they stupid enough to believe they haven't been mocked and ripped apart by the way they look, or how old they are? Honestly? Suck it up. It was a joke at an event that is held to tell jokes. We have the BIGGEST joke sitting in our Oval Office with access to nuclear bombs and we're in a tizzy because one woman pointed out that another woman looks like a raccoon? Come on, is there anybody out there that honestly hasn't already noticed that? I know, meow.

Obviously, the wimp who decided to skip the event can't take a joke either. That's typical bully behavior. Say and do what you want about anyone. Point out those tiny little specks in the eyes of others but when someone mentions the GIANT PLANKS in your eyes, you're outraged.

I remember the vicious, nasty, cruel things that have been said about First Lady Michelle Obama as well as First Lady Hillary Clinton. More mean spirited than they look like a nocturnal animal. Although I don't see it. I think raccoons are adorable.

BTW, whoever does Rachael Maddow's makeup should be fired because she does look like a raccoon with all that thick black gunk on her eyelashes. She looks so uncomfortable. I know they all have to wear makeup on TV but does it have to weigh down her lashes? Besides, she's a natural beauty. Leave her alone. lol.