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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 0:54:57 GMT
You know, if they are both playing some silly game with this jacket, it just proves her visit wasn't all that heartfelt. Timing is everything & playing games when these kids are locked up really is " deplorable!". Plus, saying " Good Luck" to the kids in departing, well, OMG!. I was willing to give her a break with this visit, but, now, not so much!...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 1:00:23 GMT
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2018 12:36:49 GMT
I too had hoped Melania was sincere in her visit and wish to help these kids, but that's a hope that is hard to hold onto. There's no way she didn't know the message that jacket was sending so she just comes across as looking crass and uncaring to me, using this tragedy purely as a photo op whether it was an "in your face" gesture to the JA or another kind of message it was still totally out of place. These kids are not pawns on a chessboard to be sacrificed.
And now the JA says not to bother trying to pass any immigration reform until after the mid-terms when they get more Rs into Congress. So clearly for him this is all just a political move to try and stay in power. If he can keep his base fired up about immigration he thinks he can get them out to the polls to elect more sycophants who will do his bidding. If Democrats and independent voters allow this to happen, we deserve what we get but these poor innocents do not.
They want to use the military to solve the problem about these children??? Sure, let's get some big, burly, gruff Marines or a Seal Team or two to babysit them, change the diapers, etc. Is there ANYONE associated with this administration who has a clue?!! They just want to shove them out of sight and make voters think the problem is being taken care of. Not a single person in this entire administration cares what becomes of these children or their families. It just sickens me as I know it sickens us all.
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2018 12:40:15 GMT
Putin pulls the strings on this JA just like a puppeteer. When he no longer finds him useful, he'll cast him aside, but for now all he has to do is flatter him and encourage his dreams of becoming a dictator of the world.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 13:22:31 GMT
I saw a pic of Melania's jacket on the Statue of Liberty, saying on the back " We All Should Care" ...She was holding on to the the hand of the little girl on the Time Mag cover. To me, that sends more of a message than Melania's silly attempt to do whatever the heck she was doing!
So FM wants Rep to stop wasting time in immigration until after the Mid Terms . Since when is it a waste of time, any time, for elected officials to work on problems this country faces. I guess when you sit in the Oval Office & are a do nothing un caring Prez you can waste time!
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2018 13:55:52 GMT
Oh I like that image with the Statue of Liberty. I saw a joke one this morning with someone wearing the jacket and on the back it says November is coming.
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Post by DotRen on Jun 22, 2018 14:12:13 GMT
Kind of laughing about this.. MT's spokesperson said there was no message by her wearing the jacket; DT tweeted that it IS a message to the "fake news". So here's the deal -again - if YOU'RE making the statement and it's false, it's not fake news, it's you being a LIAR.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 14:37:37 GMT
OMG now the FM tweets that all these stories & pics are phony, Fake News put out by the Democrats to win the election in November & SHS tweets out after backing him up. I guess that's the new strategy . To me that says, this whole thing is way worse than we even know about & the FM is running scared!
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Post by DotRen on Jun 22, 2018 14:58:05 GMT
This is a sincere question: If the White House issues conflicting statements, how are "We the people" supposed to get to the truth? I know a lot of people on the Right claim everyone else is out to get Trump, but honestly the guy does it to himself with crap like this. If he's intentionally lying to the media, or if his people are, there is a much deeper issue here than just this reality show that our higher government has become. If "WE" can't believe any statements officially made by the President or his staff, what must the rest of the world think? Sadly, we will have no allies by the time this circus leaves town.
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Post by doordie50 on Jun 22, 2018 15:07:38 GMT
Oh I like that image with the Statue of Liberty. I saw a joke one this morning with someone wearing the jacket and on the back it says November is coming. Love the Game of Thrones reference.
Photos handed out by the government, any government, is just propaganda. How is it in America that zero access has been given to the press and elected officials to get a look for themselves at these facilities and the condition of the children?! They could certainly do a press pool and allow just one in to share with the rest so as not to overwhelm or further frighten these poor children. What country are we?! What don't they want us to see?! It's just crazy. At any other time, the appropriate committees in Congress would be holding hearings demanding access and oversight to such clandestine maneuverings.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 15:58:36 GMT
I'll be MIA for the next week or so. Kids from MN coming to visit next week & then DH brother & wife coming after that. I need to deep clean my kitchen before Heakth Department shuts me down. Plus, clean the rest of my dirty summer house that gets neglected because if yard work. My multitasking has considerably slowed down. I've been baking cookies all week, so, I'm good to go there. Anyway, have a great week. Hard to believe the days are getting shorter again & 4th just around the corner. Wish I could just grab hold of time & hang on to it for awhile.
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2018 16:36:52 GMT
You all make such good points! Yes, absolutely we would not allow this to go unanswered in another country, and yet here we are not only aiding and abetting it but actively trying to sweep it under the rug and cover it up. There MUST be more there that is even more horrifying by the simple fact that they won't allow anyone to see what is actually going on. The UN Council on Human Rights needs to demand that the someone be allowed in and the information made available to us all. The former First Ladies took a stand. It's time for the former Presidents to take a stand, and especially the Bushes since they are Republican because Rs will cry foul play with Carter and Clinton.
There is not a country left in the world who has any respect for this administration, and rightly so.
Democrats better get it together for the mid-terms, because if they lose out and this JA can't be held in check there is absolutely no hope left for our country.
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2018 16:38:56 GMT
Linda, have a great couple of weeks although if you're like me by the time all the company leaves you'll be exhausted.
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Post by doordie50 on Jun 22, 2018 18:06:08 GMT
@lka5, Enjoy your time with family Linda. If you have cookies, no one will notice a bit of dust lol
It was 81 in DC yesterday. One might think the only reason to wear that jacket was to in fact, send some kind of message.
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Post by birdgal on Jun 22, 2018 22:43:38 GMT
Rest In Peace, Koko. Thank you for talking with us. You will be missed. We're still working on talking with each other.
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