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Post by nashville11 on Oct 16, 2019 1:26:34 GMT
Really good debate tonight
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Post by DotRen on Oct 16, 2019 11:07:24 GMT
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Post by nashville11 on Oct 16, 2019 12:02:22 GMT
DotRen, mixing a combination like tRump and KJU has got to be toxic. Neither one of them has any concern for the lives they can so easily obliterate, and I wouldn't put anything past either one of them. The very fact that this JA is so enamored with the thugs and dictators of the world is enough to make your blood run cold. Last night's debate was really good, and I still don't have a front runner pick. I wasn't surprised to see this morning that Klobuchar and Mayor Pete are being called stand-outs. They both had a very good night. I hope the polls will reflect that for them. Bernie was his fiery self, and should have put to rest any concerns about his health. Biden did well, but he didn't knock it out of the park and IMO he probably should have made a stronger statement about his son than just saying, "My son's statement speaks for itself." But, what do I know? Maybe he hopes that by saying less the issue will begin to fade? Harris did nothing to impress last night, or at least I didn't think so. She didn't do anything terrible, but just didn't do anything to increase her chances that I saw. Elizabeth was the one who got attacked hard, and she did o.k. with it, but I didn't like the fact that she was clearly trying to deflect when it came to questions about whether or not middle class taxes were going to go up in order to pay for her Medicare For All plan. She sounded like she was trying to avoid an answer, and I don't think that's ever good. Why not just plainly say (what I think she was beating around the bush about) that taxes would go up but that the overall savings from lower medical costs would offset that leaving people with more money in their pocket rather than less. At least I think that was what she meant when she kept stressing that costs would go down. I did read one commentary this morning by Axelrod that indicated he thought she might have been holding off because she has an additional plan about that and wasn't yet read to reveal it. Maybe, but I didn't think she did well in the moment on that question. Still once again I came away thinking how fortunate we are to have such good candidates to choose from, and while some I like much better than others there are not any that I would have a problem voting for.
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Post by nashville11 on Oct 16, 2019 13:42:40 GMT
Wondering what all of your thoughts are about Kamala's call for Twitter to close the JA's account. I'm not on Twitter and wouldn't follow him if I was, but of course I constantly hear about his tweets in the news. As much as I would love to never hear about another JA tweet, however, I'm not so sure I can agree about closing his account. That raises the specter of censorship, which is always a very slippery slope. What do you think?
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Post by DotRen on Oct 16, 2019 14:25:13 GMT
I don't agree with twitter closing it, but someone in the WH needs to check the stupidity level of the tweets before the go live.
Also: I completely disagree with social media like twitter being the "official white house" media outlet, like he seems to make it.
*rolls eyes*
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Post by lani on Oct 16, 2019 15:30:17 GMT
Can't agree with closing his account. It's the best evidence of what an idiot he is.
I would really prefer a more moderate Democratic candidate than Warren or, for sure, Sanders. But I will take what I get and run with it. I like Pete, Klobuchar or even Yang. When the far lefters start in I feel like yelling: "That's not how any of this works!" I am probably in the minority for this board. I am on board with Biden's policies but I don't think he has that fire in his belly like the old days. I feel like he's only running out of duty. I remember when he was the Happy Warrior.
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Post by nashville11 on Oct 16, 2019 15:53:44 GMT
I don't agree with twitter closing it, but someone in the WH needs to check the stupidity level of the tweets before the go live. Also: I completely disagree with social media like twitter being the "official white house" media outlet, like he seems to make it. *rolls eyes* We are definitely in agreement here DotRen, |
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Post by nashville11 on Oct 16, 2019 16:05:00 GMT
lani , while I like Warren I agree that my personal preference is more moderate. I do think there is a real danger in going too far left. I've been impressed with Mayor Pete from the "get go", and I really liked what I heard from Amy Klobuchar last night. I like some of what Yang has to say, but I'm not on board with his money handout. I like Bernie's idea of providing jobs through the rebuilding of infrastructure, etc. (similar to Roosevelt's CCC) much better. I still think the majority of Americans are not looking for a handout, but rather would prefer to earn their way. As for Biden, I have always liked him but I too worry that his time may have passed, and like you he doesn't seem to have the fire that was once there. I'm not sure if that's because he no longer has that, or if it's because his campaign staff is trying too hard to "handle" him. We all know he has a tendency to speak before thinking things through sometimes. As for the endorsements for Bernie from Omar and AOC, I don't really see them as the huge help that some of the media seem to be touting. I think they go too far left for a lot of people in the mid-west and the south. That group of 4 all are smart, talented women, but IMO they'd do well to get some experience under their belt. They want to change the world overnight, and we all know that's just not going to happen. I don't want to see them lose their passion, but I think they would do well to learn from the experiences of those who have come before them before going too far out on a limb.
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Post by lani on Oct 16, 2019 17:30:57 GMT
To clarify, I think Biden is completely capable of doing the job of President. I don't think he will stand up to Trump as well as some of the others in a one-on-one debate, which is a stupid consideration, but there we are. Also, Biden is the one with the most foreign policy experience. If anyone can get anything done with the Republican Senate it would be him as well.
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Post by nashville11 on Oct 16, 2019 17:31:04 GMT
Based on the financial aspects of the campaigns, it sounds like a lot of donors may be concerned about Biden. As much as we don't want it to do so, money makes a big difference in political campaigns. Their expenses can be enormous.
I agree that based on experience, Biden definitely has the best credentials.
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Post by lani on Oct 16, 2019 17:35:06 GMT
nashville11, it's a puzzlement. DT says Kurds and Turkey "not our problem". Alrighty then.
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Post by nashville11 on Oct 16, 2019 18:19:01 GMT
lani , yes, sure glad he clarified that for us. LOL! So I'm sure none of our allies will have a problem trusting us and coming to our defense now that they understand that betraying the Kurds is really not our problem. Good to know!  Oh, and did you notice his decision to pull out was "brilliant." That really puts the icing on the cake. 
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Post by nashville11 on Oct 16, 2019 18:25:40 GMT
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Post by nashville11 on Oct 16, 2019 18:27:38 GMT
One more thing I liked from Amy Klobuchar last night was that she brought up the issue of not just medical healthcare, but also the very serious issue of long-term care as our population ages. I think you all know that's an issue near and dear to my heart. I hope she's not a lone voice crying in the wilderness about that.
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Post by lani on Oct 16, 2019 23:17:12 GMT
Further clarification: he actually said something like Turkey and Syria have a problem, it's not our border. But the end result is the same. Re: the "It's not our problem" quote.
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