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Post by cathygeha on Nov 17, 2019 7:48:18 GMT
Just curious...are you doing points plus and if so, which version? (is there more than one version?)
I really liked 123/winning points versions better than this one. I liked being able to do the mental calculations for foods in my mind rather than having to use protein, carb, fat and fiber. I just wondered if anyone else is still using the earlier/earliest incarnations of points counting and the original Core/SFT programs when not counting points?
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Post by lavonm on Nov 17, 2019 16:07:31 GMT
Just curious...are you doing points plus and if so, which version? (is there more than one version?)
I really liked 123/winning points versions better than this one. I liked being able to do the mental calculations for foods in my mind rather than having to use protein, carb, fat and fiber. I just wondered if anyone else is still using the earlier/earliest incarnations of points counting and the original Core/SFT programs when not counting points?
I'm doing Points Plus. When PP started, you had 29 daily points & 49 weekly. That changed to 26 daily points & 49 weekly. There really isn't any other version. I think they had a fancy name at some point but it was the same number of points. If you don't want to do the mental calculations, then go by calories. 40 calories equals 1 point. That, of course, doesn't work if you're eating something high in fat or sugar but you could always do the calculation for those items. |
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Post by limefan on Nov 17, 2019 19:03:38 GMT
I am doing Point Plus, but also checking out purple. Points Plus did have Simply Filling, so there were two ways to follow Points Plus. Simple Start was also introduced during Points Plus which was a "training wheels" version of Simply Filling.
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Post by reallyrosie on Nov 18, 2019 3:50:39 GMT
Iām doing Points Plus.
I donāt recall all the details, but the plan changed slightly in its second year,
with only a few point values tweaked.
The Plan name just morphed into Points Plus 2012.
After that, the next plan was called WW360; it still used Points Plus, though.
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Post by irisinnia on Nov 18, 2019 16:06:29 GMT
cathygeha, I'm doing PointsPlus, but I think cj59 does an earlier program. I don't recall whether she uses iTrackBites or paper. I use the same calculation as lavonm . 40 calories = 1 PP. It's pretty close and if I'm off a point or two on something I have to guess, it's not something I'm eating often enough to worry about. 
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Post by cathygeha on Nov 19, 2019 7:59:17 GMT
The first time I did points was in 1998 and I reached goal in 1999. At that time we had points allotted by weight. As you lost weight the number of points decreased. You had a range to eat within for the day and no weekly points. That range was decreased by 2 points the next year (or so). After that the version had a target point for the day with weeklies (and here I am drawing a blank because at one point there were 35 and at another there were 49 - can't remember those specifics.
Anyway...back then I used the formula below to figure out points in my head:
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Post by irisinnia on Nov 19, 2019 13:46:51 GMT
cathygeha, Oh my! I used to teach high school math (up to calculus) and that is NOT what I would consider something to do in your head. lol
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Post by sunshinep396 on Nov 19, 2019 16:17:31 GMT
I believe the only change in PP was from unlimited fiber in the calculation to capping the amount of fiber to be counted at 4 grams.
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Post by reallyrosie on Nov 23, 2019 17:41:49 GMT
Wow. Thereās no way I could have kept track of all that,
much less do all that math in my head!
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Post by sunshinep396 on Nov 24, 2019 16:15:44 GMT
reallyrosie, we didnāt have to do it in our heads. We had a Points Finder and then Points Calculators, as well as plan booklets and finally, the WW app. However, if you wanted to quickly estimate the approximate PP in a food, you could use the 40 calorie per point method and get pretty close.
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Post by reallyrosie on Dec 14, 2019 14:33:32 GMT
Thanks for explaining the simple āestimatingā hack, sunshinep396! I usually had a pocket guide, or a WW calculator at hand, and when things were really crucial, have been known to toss a shopping/dining guide in my trunk. (Own one of the last of the flip phones, so the app isnāt exactly portable.) I could have managed with your method... itās the longer, complex one cathygeha posted I couldnāt possibly have done in my head. š³ |
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Post by susan092907 on Dec 14, 2019 22:26:05 GMT
cathygeha, There was an earlier points plan before Points Plus called Momentum. You can follow it on itrackbites. It's called Conquer Cravings on there. I think the calculation is as you described. Carbs weren't included in that plan's points calculation. They were included in the "new" plan that came after that, which was Points Plus. The minimum daily points was 18, and everyone got 35 weeklies. Points could be easily calculated as 50 calories/point. The only 0 point foods were non-starchy vegetables. I got to my official goal weight on that plan, and almost down to my personal goal on it, before it ended and Points Plus came about. Even though I lost a lot of weight (for me) on Momentum, I found it difficult to get in all my healthy guidelines on that plan, and was happy to switch to Points Plus when it started. It felt more workable to me.
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Post by wwlurker on Dec 16, 2019 14:48:59 GMT
I do Momentum on itrackbites. I love it. I found PP a little more difficult because I tend to eat a very carb-heavy diet. I like Momentum because it steers me away from too much fat (which is bad for my digestive system), but allows me to eat the carbs I love and rely on. I do think that I would benefit from less sugar, though.
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Post by cathygeha on May 27, 2020 7:01:02 GMT
cathygeha , There was an earlier points plan before Points Plus called Momentum. You can follow it on itrackbites. It's called Conquer Cravings on there. I think the calculation is as you described. Carbs weren't included in that plan's points calculation. They were included in the "new" plan that came after that, which was Points Plus. The minimum daily points was 18, and everyone got 35 weeklies. Points could be easily calculated as 50 calories/point. The only 0 point foods were non-starchy vegetables. I got to my official goal weight on that plan, and almost down to my personal goal on it, before it ended and Points Plus came about. Even though I lost a lot of weight (for me) on Momentum, I found it difficult to get in all my healthy guidelines on that plan, and was happy to switch to Points Plus when it started. It felt more workable to me. I am wondering if I should try Points Plus this week. I did download I Track Bites and was doing it well but am thinking the "free" fruit and vegetable, especially this time of year, might make it easier to stay OP and within points/bites. |
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Post by irisinnia on May 27, 2020 15:20:04 GMT
You could try! I find it difficult to stay on plan when I switch plans, so just make sure you safeguard yourself with a solid meal plan, and double track on your old plan if the day gets rough. You don't want to fall off the wagon. A week or two is a good test period. I personally, love the free fruit/veggies.
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