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Post by fullmahina on Apr 10, 2021 14:54:41 GMT
I have a friend in Michigan. She is FURIOUS about what is happening there. The virus is out of control. She was the one who was digging in her heels about only wanting the J&J vaccine and who finally relented and now has gotten her first Pfizer shot.
Yes, she is furious, posting articles on her FB page about the mess in her state. But right after those articles she posts pics of her grandson in his baseball uniform along with his team members. Adults and teens, no masks, no social distancing whatsoever. And this is not for a team picture where they always defend themselves with "oh we just took off our masks for the picture and put them right back on." These are pics from the sidelines, in the dugout, etc. Action shots, I guess you could say. I see no masks on faces, under chins, or in hand.
Posts on my little town's FB page show photos of high school intramural sports, including wrestling. Effin' fabulous, guys.
I honestly thought things would be so much better by now and we would be on our way to victory over this thing but nope, here we are over one year later and it's all blowing up again.
On a more positive note, two of my grandkids (ages 16 and 18) got appointments at Walgreen's for their first Pfizer shots tomorrow. Walgreen's is now telling you which vaccine will be available when you go to make an appointment. Pfizer is the only one that is presently approved for the 16 and 17 year olds.
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Post by DotRen on Apr 10, 2021 15:05:03 GMT
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Post by fullmahina on Apr 10, 2021 17:49:31 GMT
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Post by bbbearsmom on Apr 12, 2021 16:20:18 GMT
From an email I got from the Washington Post (I subscribe):
An October 2019 report by the Johns Hopkins Center for Global Health Security and the Nuclear Threat Initiative concluded the United States was the country best prepared to handle a pandemic.
A year and a half later, the reality looks far different.
The United States has suffered nearly one-fifth of the world’s covid-19 deaths, according to Hopkins’s own data, even as it accounts for just over 4 percent of the world’s population. Twenty-three percent of the world’s recorded coronavirus cases have occurred among Americans.
“In my book, I think of the U.S. as having the worst outcomes,” said Jennifer Nuzzo, a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist who co-led the pandemic preparedness index, which she said was meant to measure capacity, and not as a predictive tool. “It’s just the size of our epidemic and the fact that it didn’t have to be this way.”
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Post by lani on Apr 12, 2021 17:03:17 GMT
Fareed Zakaria had some interesting observations about various countries' pandemic handling. He was basing his segment on a book by Michele Gelfand, "Rule Makers, Rule Breakers". Basically a strong, functioning government was needed, but even more important was the culture, defined as "tight" or "loose". Western cultures are more loose, Asian ones more tight. Meaning tight ones follow rules, loose ones break the rules. It was not just a case of East vs. West. A more determining factor was history. Countries with histories of invasion, famine, political instability, etc. naturally become "tighter" as almost a defensive posture. The U.S. is isolated by two oceans and has benign neighbors on both borders resulting in a more "loose" culture.
I don't know if I'm explaining it correctly. It was on Sunday's GPS, on "Fareed's First Take".
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Post by bbbearsmom on Apr 12, 2021 17:04:55 GMT
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Post by DotRen on Apr 13, 2021 11:08:19 GMT
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Post by lani on Apr 13, 2021 16:30:21 GMT
DotRen, and it's the internet that has spawned and spread all these crazy theories.
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Post by Jennifer on Jul 11, 2021 23:32:51 GMT
As for people thinking things will be normal by the summer, they won't, and I say that as a public health worker, that is not realistic. It's going to be probably 2022 when things start to feel more normal Just looking back at this thread, while not 100%, things have been very close to normal this summer. A bit concerned about fall and winter but today I'm grateful for how far we have come. ❤
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Post by luanne on Jul 11, 2021 23:38:21 GMT
As for people thinking things will be normal by the summer, they won't, and I say that as a public health worker, that is not realistic. It's going to be probably 2022 when things start to feel more normal Just looking back at this thread, while not 100% things have been very close to normal this summer. A bit concerned about fall and winter but today I'm grateful for how far we have come. ❤ I still don't feel we are close to "normal" Maybe we're close to the new normal. When I think normal, I think back to no masks, no social distancing, no limits on how many people could gather (except for fire code limits). We're not anywhere close to there. Masks are still required in a lot of places - medical facilities, public transit, airports and airplanes (at least airplanes, not 100% sure about airports), our local Post Office. Supposed to be masked if not vaccinated. The local spa I love requires proof of vaccination. Countries still not allowing us in, most notably Canada. So maybe there is a small bubble where "normal" might be prevailing, but overall.....nope, we're not there.
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Post by Jennifer on Jul 11, 2021 23:55:22 GMT
[quote author=" luanne" source="/post/693476/thread" So maybe there is a small bubble where "normal" might be prevailing [/quote] My bubble is northeast Ohio, and I live a simple life. Makes me pretty darn happy to be able to grocery shop, work at the salon, go to my WW meeting, see my family, volunteer at our church summer festival, celebrate the 4th of July. My world is almost 100% normal. Again, I am grateful for how far we've come.
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Post by bbbearsmom on Jul 12, 2021 16:54:44 GMT
I still worry about the variants even though I'm vaccinated. I have also become more worried about the quality of the information we are being given about the virus and what to do. I do still wear my mask most of the times I'm out. It is better in the sense I had gotten to the point of not going out to shop except for grocery pickup and now I go into the stores.
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Post by lani on Jul 12, 2021 18:21:33 GMT
I am feeling confident in my local area. Although cases are picking up in the Bay Area as a whole. I am continuing to shop without wearing a mask where allowed. I have seen a few workers at my local grocery going maskless, so it must have changed to personal preference for them. Other than weekly grocery shopping I go nowhere regularly. I am meeting a friend for lunch, indoors, on July 23. We have dined there twice since this restaurant opened again. The servers wear masks, the diners, no.
I have not returned to the salon but not for fear of Covid. I don't mind my long hair, I have no desire to color it anymore, and I'm saving a lot money skipping the salon.
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Post by bbbearsmom on Jul 12, 2021 18:55:35 GMT
DotRen, This is copied from a news alert I got from the Washington Post: FDA expected to announce new warning on Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine related to autoimmune disorder The Food and Drug Administration plans to say this week that the single-dose vaccine has been linked to a serious but rare side effect called Guillain-Barré syndrome, according to four people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions. The incidence is rare — fewer than 100 cases among the 12.8 million people who received the shot in the United States — and health officials plan to emphasize that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh potential risks.
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Post by DotRen on Jul 12, 2021 19:18:25 GMT
bbbearsmom, thanks for posting that. I know "we" were warned off the standard type vaccines all along, but they needed to put that on there for people who've never had GBS and maybe didn't know what it even was. I'm still hesitant to get the moderna one, and I'm trying to stay updated on the info, but it seems like it's being kept out of the public eye, know what I mean?
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