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Post by lani on Jun 1, 2020 20:47:42 GMT
One result of the protests devolving into property damage - the business community could be motivated to improve the economic situation so they can keep doing business and making money. On CNBC (the business/stock market network) they had one black business owner/executive after another basically saying to viewers (who are affluent as a rule) "if you want to stay rich these inequities must finally be addressed." It doesn't even need to be framed as the moral thing to do; it's the practical thing to do. Business doesn't need to wait for government. They can act now.
One man brought up as an example: when MLK won the Nobel Prize the business community refused to honor him. I believe this was in Atlanta. The chairman of Coca-Cola called the local business leaders together and said if you don't have a ceremony to honor this man I will move my company out of your backward town. They fell into line immediately.
Roger Alles must be rolling in his grave. He started CNBC back in the day.
It was either Don Lemon or Van Jones on CNN who said
When you speak up and they don't hear you, you yell.
When you yell and they don't hear you, you scream.
When you scream and they don't hear you, you start throwing things.
ETA: And yes there are outside elements using this as an opportunity to sow anarchy. And Van Jones said "local knuckleheads."
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 1, 2020 21:00:30 GMT
My point about Trump is that there was racial inequality long before he came along, but he has exponentially made things worse eradicating much of the progress that had been made pre-Trump. I understand the frustration, at least as well as any white, privileged woman can. I will be 71 years old next week, so I experienced the struggle going on during the 60s. But no matter how just I believe the cause of equality overall, and justice for Mr Floyd in this particular instance I believe violence and looting simply set that cause further back rather than advancing it forward. I think that in most and perhaps even all the cases of the rioting, violence, and looting that is going on now that it is being instigated by those who have no genuine interest in either equality or justice, and very often by white supremacist types who are deliberately doing it. I still believe that the only person benefiting from those tactics is tRump, and I think he is deliberately stirring the pot. It rallies his base, makes frightened middle of the road voters give him a second look, and distracts from his dismal failure handling the pandemic.
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Post by lani on Jun 1, 2020 21:20:32 GMT
nashville11 , yes DT latched onto white fear from the very beginning of his run. Practically the first thing he said was about Mexico sending us rapists. If people didn't get a clue then, shame on them. And if they did and supported him anyway, double shame.
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Post by finreporter on Jun 1, 2020 22:44:56 GMT
and unfortunately since this doesn't ever stop, another black man was killed last night by cops (and the national guard). louisville, KY. the chief of police was fired today.
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 1, 2020 23:02:49 GMT
And he has to throw in "protecting your 2nd Amendment rights" as he calls in Federal troops. Purely a call to arms for his ardent MAGA supporters. I was glad that one governor stood up to him in that conference call, but you can bet he'll do everything in his power to make that governor's life Hell. Illinois is screwed on getting any federal help for anything now. If there is one thing you can count on about this JA, it is that he is small, petty, and never takes the high road. He can hang on to a grudge, and he never lets it go.
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Post by finreporter on Jun 1, 2020 23:19:45 GMT
this fucker WANTS a shoot out. he wants to see people shot up and killed for his own amusement. man. it's like we're living in the hunger games and he's president snow. only not smart enough to say big words.
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Post by finreporter on Jun 1, 2020 23:23:27 GMT
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Post by finreporter on Jun 1, 2020 23:25:30 GMT
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Post by lani on Jun 1, 2020 23:34:21 GMT
I just watched the military and police in DC sweep the street of non-violent protesters so DT could walk from the Rose Garden to a church and have a photo op, where he held up a bible. Police/military fired tear gas, pepper grenades and rubber bullets. This was not a violent mob. IMO the obvious hope was to provoke the crowd into violence. It didn't work. This is unbelievable. It was a made for camera scenario.
The 1807 law he invoked, saying he could order the U.S. military into states, reads that it can only be done at the state's request. He left that little bit out in his speech.
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Post by finreporter on Jun 1, 2020 23:47:05 GMT
oh my god. holding a bible. like he's ever read the damn thing in his whole life. crazy how the religious zealots fall for it. so easily conned.
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Post by amyrs on Jun 1, 2020 23:54:22 GMT
Biden says he will pick an African American running mate at least one positive development
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 2, 2020 0:15:55 GMT
Bernard Shaw on Trump's photo opp in front of St. John's: "A moment that would have made P.T. Barnum proud."
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Post by DotRen on Jun 2, 2020 0:27:35 GMT
Well, if anyone knows about being weak and a laughing stock of the world, it's him.
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Post by finreporter on Jun 2, 2020 0:28:52 GMT
Biden says he will pick an African American running mate at least one positive development good. i read up on val demings. i really like her. i think she would be a good choice. sounds like it would be between demings and abrams. both would be great choices. |
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Post by finreporter on Jun 2, 2020 1:23:58 GMT
because this is EVER ok.  |
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