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Post by bbbearsmom on Jun 3, 2020 19:25:54 GMT
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a bible." I started college in the fall of 1964. One thing I remember my Freshman English teacher talking about was the conservatives and the right wing. He said all of the magazines had a cross and a flag on their covers.
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Post by luanne on Jun 3, 2020 19:32:22 GMT
I know, Steve King out! I legit threw my arms in the air when I saw it. Touch down! I say we need to keep seeing all the strange things the current occupant of the WH does. And then watch his supporters try to justify them. Down with tyranny! Too many exclamation points, but I am jazzed and hoping for change, for a change. P.S. What's with the "be kind" announcement? Did I miss some snarkiness? Was it us? Or someone else for once.. One of my more politically astute friends said that the guy who beat Steve King is just as bad. And since it's a very conservative, right wing area, he'll most likely win in the General election.
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Post by birdgal on Jun 3, 2020 19:42:26 GMT
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To take a blasphemous photo op in front of a church.
From Facebook
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Post by birdgal on Jun 3, 2020 20:23:42 GMT
Bbbearsmom, I'm sure their mags are the same today. Perhaps even worse.
Angry, puffed up, foolish people waiting and praying for the total destruction of Earth. Cheering on evil people to make it happen. Simple minds.
Thank God I'm an Atheist. Wait. Lol. 🙃
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Post by finreporter on Jun 3, 2020 20:56:59 GMT
Why did the chicken cross the road? To take a blasphemous photo op in front of a church. From Facebook best one i've heard in a long time!!
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Post by finreporter on Jun 3, 2020 20:58:00 GMT
Thank God I'm an Atheist. Wait. Lol. 🙃 another atheist over here
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Post by lani on Jun 3, 2020 21:17:59 GMT
the guy who beat Steve King is just as bad. I've heard that also since my original post. But is that even possible? I wikied Feenstra but there wasn't much info. One more, seen on a tee shirt: Flush the Turd on November 3rd. I used to identify as atheist, but now I'm a wannabe Buddhist. Not sure what category I'm in. I think I was always more of an agnostic.
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Post by finreporter on Jun 3, 2020 22:00:40 GMT
i was agnostic for many years (raised catholic, became agnostic in college and for several years after that). Now i identify as atheist though i do have some spiritual leanings. mostly out of comfort than out of truly believing.
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Post by luanne on Jun 3, 2020 22:17:13 GMT
I will no longer refer to the Republican Party as the GOP. To me they are POT (Party of Trump).
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Post by birdgal on Jun 4, 2020 3:17:24 GMT
There's a BIG difference between a religious person and a spiritual person.
BIG DIFFERENCE!
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Post by Holly Gail on Jun 4, 2020 12:43:48 GMT
I have just a small problem with one rather small piece of recent postings... Well, maybe not so small... I am a religious person. I'm not part of the "Christian right" by any stretch of the imagination.
I attend worship services daily and I follow in the footsteps of my ancestry when it comes to how to live my life. My grandfather (more than 100 years ago) had to change his profession because he couldn't cross a picket line (he had been a tailor; google the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire if you don't know the kind of thing I'm talking about). I could tell you stories about my mother's actions protesting numerous "unfair" practices. I myself several times marched on Washington with the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.; a few years later, I was arrested (along with maybe 8000 others) at the World's Fair in New York City in the 1960s in a sit-down demonstration and represented in court by William Kunstler (and if you don't know his name, please google him).
And I'm a religious person. There was a rabbi (Abraham Joshua Heschel) who said (in 1965, while marching in Selma alongside MLK) he was "praying with [his] feet." The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., an ordained minister, was a religious man. Please stop lumping all religious people in the same bucket with the "religious 'right'" and/or the "Christian right." Many, many, many of us religious people are politically progressive. [PS. And, by the way, we rigorously defend people who choose atheism.]
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Post by Holly Gail on Jun 4, 2020 13:10:41 GMT
Here's a direct quote from today's New York Times. - - - - - Since President Trump shot to the top of the Republican presidential field five years ago, his critics on both the right and the left have been eager to predict his imminent political demise. So far, of course, those critics have yet to be right.
There is no way to know whether the current moment is different. But it’s becoming clear that Trump is in the midst of one of the worst stretches of his presidency, if not the single worst.
Yesterday afternoon, his former defense secretary, James Mattis — who had avoided criticizing Trump since resigning 17 months ago — issued a stinging condemnation of the Trump administration’s response to the protests. “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try,” Mattis told The Atlantic. “Instead he tries to divide us.”
Mattis suggested that Trump had made “a mockery of our Constitution” by using the military to break up a peaceful protest so he could stage “a bizarre photo op.” Mattis was echoing criticism from other former military leaders who have also rebuked Trump.
Even two of Trump’s own top military leaders tried to distance themselves from him. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said that active-duty military troops should not be used to quell protests. And Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, reminded commanders that members of the armed forces had sworn an oath to Constitution, which “gives Americans the right to freedom of speech and peaceful assembly.” - - - - -
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 4, 2020 13:35:02 GMT
And I'm a religious person. There was a rabbi (Abraham Joshua Heschel) who said (in 1965, while marching in Selma alongside MLK) he was "praying with [his] feet." The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., an ordained minister, was a religious man. Please stop lumping all religious people in the same bucket with the "religious 'right'" and/or the "Christian right." Many, many, many of us religious people are politically progressive. [PS. And, by the way, we rigorously defend people who choose atheism.] Amen Holly Gail! That really bothers me too, and it feeds directly into the far right's agenda when those on the left use sterotypes and lump all religious people into one generalized group. It's wrong, and it's patently unfair. Everyone has to determine their own stand on religion and or faith, but no one should ridicule or hold up one's choice to derision. I see that happening in some of these posts also, and to be honest it makes me very uncomfortable. Uncomfortable to the point that after having had this same discussion on here before I'm seriously thinking that perhaps I'm no longer a good fit for this group, and that perhaps it may be time for me to move on. No judgment. Everyone is free to believe as they choose and speak their mind, but this group was founded with the intent that we welcome all. Lately it doesn't feel very welcoming for those of us of faith. Just my thoughts, and my thoughts are of no more value than anyone else's, but I appreciate Holly Gail speaking up.
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Post by lani on Jun 4, 2020 13:55:05 GMT
I don't mean to imply anyone who is a member of any faith is a Trump supporter. I have more, but Mr. Lani needs the room....
Got the computer back. My post was strictly about my own ideas regarding my personal spiritual state.
Thomas Friedman's column today:
"The Senate Republican caucus today is nothing but a political brothel. Mitch McConnell is the madame. And McConnell and the caucus rent themselves out by the night to whomever will energize the Republican base to keep them in power and secure the economic benefits for their wealthiest donors." He trashes Mark Zuckerberg, calling him "the Ruplert Murdock of his generation."
He goes on to site "America's principled business leaders" as a group he hopes can problem-solve. Also, local politicians.
I generally line up with whatever Friedman has to say.
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Post by birdgal on Jun 4, 2020 17:47:36 GMT
If "the posting" being talked about that upset a few people was one of mine I would like to know about it.
So, would you please send me a private message and let me know specifically what offended you?
Thanks!
If it's not me have a nice day. 😊
Joyce and Gail, we all have our own beliefs and feelings about religion. Mine are based on things that have been done to me and others like me in the name of religion. Cruel, hurtful, lies that have left scars.
I'm sorry you are even considering leaving this thread over different opinions.
Please don't let disagreements and different beliefs destroy this community. If I offended you or Gail please just tell me instead of considering leaving.
How's that sound?
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