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Post by ksbruns on Mar 26, 2017 1:15:40 GMT
That was a great article linda72 , thank you for sharing. Some of the stats were surprising. Only 4% eat 6-8 F&V? 67% increase in fat intake since 1970? (Fast food maybe?) I think some people are under the impression that you can pour tons of olive oil on food and it's healthy. I think coconut oil is popular with the Paleo crowd, as is their consumption of meat. Coconut oil, which has 12 g of Saturated Fat in a tbsp. apparently doesn't concern them. Then there is the new notion that full fat milk and butter are healthy. The recent covers of Time magazines telling people to "eat butter" is one problem. The notion that saturated fat in milk and other full fat dairy is not a problem is troubling. Dr. Dean Ornish and many other reputable doctors and hospital have refuted this claim. Saturated fat clogs your arteries. But people want to hear good news about their bad habits I guess. This is what I meant about all the confusing information...I think it will take another generation or so to see how it shakes down, just like we know that the info in the 70's isn't holding up. And I agree, @100 gone; we eat out a lot and I do okay, but it means being willing to not eat much and it took years for me to be willing to do that.
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Post by finreporter on Mar 26, 2017 6:27:36 GMT
That was a great article linda72 , thank you for sharing. Some of the stats were surprising. Only 4% eat 6-8 F&V? 67% increase in fat intake since 1970? (Fast food maybe?) I think some people are under the impression that you can pour tons of olive oil on food and it's healthy. I think coconut oil is popular with the Paleo crowd, as is their consumption of meat. Coconut oil, which has 12 g of Saturated Fat in a tbsp. apparently doesn't concern them. Then there is the new notion that full fat milk and butter are healthy. The recent covers of Time magazines telling people to "eat butter" is one problem. The notion that saturated fat in milk and other full fat dairy is not a problem is troubling. Dr. Dean Ornish and many other reputable doctors and hospital have refuted this claim. Saturated fat clogs your arteries. But people want to hear good news about their bad habits I guess. i don't think the notion is that full fat milk and butter are healthy on a standalone basis. the healthy part comes in when people are satisfied with their foods and thus take in overall less calories than if they choked down a bunch of fat free everything and then find themselves eating a bunch more because they were not satisfied with sub-par foods.
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Post by finreporter on Mar 26, 2017 6:32:34 GMT
and although my own experience is anecdotal, i know that i am way less inclined to overeat when i have full fat dairy. the other day i happened to have an 8 oz full fat yogurt with chia seeds sprinkled in and i was not even focused on food FOR HOURS. and not in the way of forcing myself not to eat. i literally did not think of food. this is frequently the case when i choose a higher fat/higher calorie item as a meal. if i try to tell myself a fat free yogurt, some fruit or veg, and a shred of protein is a meal, i will be ravaging the cupboards in about an hour or two.
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Post by zazzles on Mar 26, 2017 23:49:14 GMT
It is an interesting article. My takeaway is that Americans were eating 22% more calories per day in 2010 then in 1970. The rest of the information debated constantly and lost my interest years ago.
I’m thankful that when I lost my weight and achieved goal in the 70s it was before all of the “modern day discovery” that say it was impossible to do so simply by controlling calorie intake.
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Post by azcristi on Mar 27, 2017 18:53:24 GMT
Wow - pretty shocking.
I know I fall into this category: Only 4 percent of Americans eat the minimum 6-8 servings of fruits and vegetables every day.
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Post by gottakeeptryin on Mar 27, 2017 19:41:54 GMT
finreporter I agree about the full fat versions of milk and butter and that moderation - measured small servings - is key.
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Post by alias123 on Mar 28, 2017 0:17:07 GMT
and although my own experience is anecdotal, i know that i am way less inclined to overeat when i have full fat dairy. the other day i happened to have an 8 oz full fat yogurt with chia seeds sprinkled in and i was not even focused on food FOR HOURS. and not in the way of forcing myself not to eat. i literally did not think of food. this is frequently the case when i choose a higher fat/higher calorie item as a meal. if i try to tell myself a fat free yogurt, some fruit or veg, and a shred of protein is a meal, i will be ravaging the cupboards in about an hour or two. We are all different. I eat non fat Greek yogurt for breakfast. I usually top it with a half banana, some berries, flax meal and a few walnuts. I am full until I come home from the gym and eat dinner. If I am hungry before dinner, I'll have some of my leftover green smoothie. Recently I started green smoothies for breakfast. It's a bunch of ingredients but basically 80% green veggies 20% fruit, protein powder, flax meal & spirulina. I only add water. That also fills me up until I come home for from the gym or wherever. I had that yesterday went I went to see a Broadway show. I didn't eat lunch and came home in the evening for dinner. I wasn't starving, just normally hungry. I know skipping lunch most days wouldn't work for most. However, I find if I am busy I don't even think about eating. A banana or some nuts also can tide me over with a full glass of water. But if a person finds eating every few hours works for them, do that. And if eating full fat foods, moderately, will help you reach your health goals than do that. Whatever works for you and helps you reach your health goals is what's important. Actually, I've read it's full fat cheese that is one of the biggest health problem foods in the American diet. It's loaded with sodium and saturated fat. I don't recall the numbers but the amount we consume has skyrocketed in the last few decades. Dairy and meat consumption generally has leveled or fallen. For me, I try to focus, diet and exercise wise, what I do 90% of the time. I find that is good enough and keeps me from falling off the wagon. ANYway, my point was the fact that saturated fat is a cause of clogged arteries. It's all good. Peace.
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Post by gottakeeptryin on Mar 28, 2017 0:36:25 GMT
alias123 I get what you are saying and I agree that saturated fat is not good. I personally never drink milk. I use unsweetened almond milk for my cereal. I believe when manufacturers try to lower the fat in products they compensate for it (a lot of times, not always) by adding sugar and that is just as bad imo. As far as cheese I prefer regular in very small amounts because I just think fat free cheese tastes fake for lack of a better description.
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Post by finreporter on Mar 28, 2017 0:53:20 GMT
and although my own experience is anecdotal, i know that i am way less inclined to overeat when i have full fat dairy. the other day i happened to have an 8 oz full fat yogurt with chia seeds sprinkled in and i was not even focused on food FOR HOURS. and not in the way of forcing myself not to eat. i literally did not think of food. this is frequently the case when i choose a higher fat/higher calorie item as a meal. if i try to tell myself a fat free yogurt, some fruit or veg, and a shred of protein is a meal, i will be ravaging the cupboards in about an hour or two. We are all different. I eat non fat Greek yogurt for breakfast. I usually top it with a half banana, some berries, flax meal and a few walnuts. I am full until I come home from the gym and eat dinner. If I am hungry before dinner, I'll have some of my leftover green smoothie. Recently I started green smoothies for breakfast. It's a bunch of ingredients but basically 80% green veggies 20% fruit, protein powder, flax meal & spirulina. I only add water. That also fills me up until I come home for from the gym or wherever. I had that yesterday went I went to see a Broadway show. I didn't eat lunch and came home in the evening for dinner. I wasn't starving, just normally hungry. I know skipping lunch most days wouldn't work for most. However, I find if I am busy I don't even think about eating. A banana or some nuts also can tide me over with a full glass of water. But if a person finds eating every few hours works for them, do that. And if eating full fat foods, moderately, will help you reach your health goals than do that. Whatever works for you and helps you reach your health goals is what's important. Actually, I've read it's full fat cheese that is one of the biggest health problem foods in the American diet. It's loaded with sodium and saturated fat. I don't recall the numbers but the amount we consume has skyrocketed in the last few decades. Dairy and meat consumption generally has leveled or fallen. For me, I try to focus, diet and exercise wise, what I do 90% of the time. I find that is good enough and keeps me from falling off the wagon. ANYway, my point was the fact that saturated fat is a cause of clogged arteries. It's all good. Peace. well, everyone should probably take my advice with a large salt mine. i'm still struggling with being overweight and you've been maintaining at goal for a long time so my way of doing it is probably not the best.
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Post by alias123 on Mar 28, 2017 1:59:18 GMT
alias123 I get what you are saying and I agree that saturated fat is not good. I personally never drink milk. I use unsweetened almond milk for my cereal. I believe when manufacturers try to lower the fat in products they compensate for it (a lot of times, not always) by adding sugar and that is just as bad imo. As far as cheese I prefer regular in very small amounts because I just think fat free cheese tastes fake for lack of a better description. I agree. Most low fat cheese is tasteless. However, I do go skim with ricotta. The issue is that we have increase the amount of cheese consumed by a large amount. The following stat is only up to 2013. My understanding is that amount has increased even more. "Using the latest data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the CSPI reports, “Since 1970, we've gone from 8 pounds per person per year to 23 pounds.” Of cheese. We are each, on average, eating 23 pounds a year of cheese. Sep 25, 2013"
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Post by alias123 on Mar 28, 2017 2:03:54 GMT
well, everyone should probably take my advice with a large salt mine. i'm still struggling with being overweight and you've been maintaining at goal for a long time so my way of doing it is probably not the best. I didn't mean to sound like a know it all. Sorry.
Please don't get down on yourself. It took me quite some time to find out what works best for me. You will find out what works best for you and your lifestyle. Which, by the way, is a heck of a lot more complicated than mine. You have a demanding job and two small kids.
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Post by finreporter on Mar 28, 2017 6:55:38 GMT
no i was being totally serious! i really don't think my way is the best way because it's not working out so well!
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