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Post by DebDoesWW on Dec 22, 2016 22:33:16 GMT
Thanks for the info cj59!
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Post by ksbruns on Dec 23, 2016 14:16:07 GMT
Thanks for posting, Linda!
I also LOVED *Hungry*....
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Post by patty on Dec 24, 2016 20:31:56 GMT
When I read the article, I see it as an advertisement for her new book.π
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Post by finreporter on Dec 25, 2016 19:49:46 GMT
It probably is. Nothing is by accident when it comes to stuff like that.
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Post by patty on Dec 26, 2016 0:03:40 GMT
This is from the article: "Sheβll share some of her favorite, Weight Watchers-friendly recipes in her new cookbook Food, Health and Happiness, out on Jan. 3, along with deeply personal stories about her weight loss journey."
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Post by surfgirl on Dec 31, 2016 5:46:31 GMT
I am clearly in the minority but I personally don't find Oprah a good role model for WW. Is she someone most of us can relate to, WLJ-wise. Sure. But a role model, I don't think so. I wish WW would use real people as role model spokespersons. There was a lady on the old boards, I think her user name was 'Poohbear', she started WW about 350+ and was at maintence at about 150 or so. She was so helpful to newbies. To me, that is a role model who should be a spokesperson. I just watched an Oprah WW ad where she is puttering in her garden, harvesting a basket of greens, which in real life would be grown and tended to by her gardening staff. Then she is enjoying a big forkful of pesto pasta, which in real life would be cooked by her personal chef. I guess I just don't think celebrity spokespersons are a realistic image of what it's like to be on WW. I'd rather have real people, who have managed to lose and maintain all while holding down real jobs, lives, families, finding time to work exercise into busy lives where they are the actual cooks and gardeners and caretakers in their lives...that's the sort of spokesperson I'd like to see, because they would show us that even in a real life, they managed to lose the weight and keep it off...without having personal chefs, assistants and fitness coaches.
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Post by marchby on Dec 31, 2016 13:02:30 GMT
Very glad for Oprah! She is a powerhouse of money and WW needed that. What I find interesting is they tout all the changes and Connect to appeal to the younger demographics but do the younger generations really follow Oprah?
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Post by riverkat79 on Dec 31, 2016 13:34:14 GMT
I am clearly in the minority but I personally don't find Oprah a good role model for WW. Is she someone most of us can relate to, WLJ-wise. Sure. But a role model, I don't think so. I wish WW would use real people as role model spokespersons. There was a lady on the old boards, I think her user name was 'Poohbear', she started WW about 350+ and was at maintence at about 150 or so. She was so helpful to newbies. To me, that is a role model who should be a spokesperson. I just watched an Oprah WW ad where she is puttering in her garden, harvesting a basket of greens, which in real life would be grown and tended to by her gardening staff. Then she is enjoying a big forkful of pesto pasta, which in real life would be cooked by her personal chef. I guess I just don't think celebrity spokespersons are a realistic image of what it's like to be on WW. I'd rather have real people, who have managed to lose and maintain all while holding down real jobs, lives, families, finding time to work exercise into busy lives where they are the actual cooks and gardeners and caretakers in their lives...that's the sort of spokesperson I'd like to see, because they would show us that even in a real life, they managed to lose the weight and keep it off...without having personal chefs, assistants and fitness coaches. Have you ever read any of Oprah's talks/articles/writings about her struggle with food and weight throughout her career? Yes, she has plenty of resources--but she's a very HUMAN human, with a great deal of raw emotional baggage connected to her weight. She's very relate-able despite her bank accounts and lifestyle.
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Post by wildcat on Dec 31, 2016 14:56:30 GMT
I am clearly in the minority but I personally don't find Oprah a good role model for WW. Is she someone most of us can relate to, WLJ-wise. Sure. But a role model, I don't think so. I wish WW would use real people as role model spokespersons. There was a lady on the old boards, I think her user name was 'Poohbear', she started WW about 350+ and was at maintence at about 150 or so. She was so helpful to newbies. To me, that is a role model who should be a spokesperson. I just watched an Oprah WW ad where she is puttering in her garden, harvesting a basket of greens, which in real life would be grown and tended to by her gardening staff. Then she is enjoying a big forkful of pesto pasta, which in real life would be cooked by her personal chef. I guess I just don't think celebrity spokespersons are a realistic image of what it's like to be on WW. I'd rather have real people, who have managed to lose and maintain all while holding down real jobs, lives, families, finding time to work exercise into busy lives where they are the actual cooks and gardeners and caretakers in their lives...that's the sort of spokesperson I'd like to see, because they would show us that even in a real life, they managed to lose the weight and keep it off...without having personal chefs, assistants and fitness coaches. I don't necessarily want a "role model" and I don't think that's the best way to attract new members. As you said, yes, she absolutely is someone I can relate to WLJ-wise even though I am not a particular fan of hers. I am much more able to relate to someone who has struggled for years with weight loss ups and downs than I am with someone who lost 200 pounds like your Poohbear friend. I can identify with someone who has had an unbelievably busy and demanding career (aka a "real job"), who has to navigate eating in meetings and business dinners and travel where all of the options seem to be unhealthy, who sometimes eats 3 meals a day in the office. I am interested in hearing from someone who has failed, many many times, and is trying again, one more time, because that's what I've had to do, and what I still have to do. Although this doesn't apply to me personally, I'll bet there are a lot of people who get value from her stories of how abuse and trauma affected her weight. Honestly, I am not that interested in a shining star of "role model" perfection, whereas a story of struggle that I can identify with and empathize with is something that I find more engaging. YMMV, of course. A few people in my real life over the last week or so have said "hey did you see Oprah lost more weight?" Something tells me that if Wildcat and her "real life" were on those commercials that no one would particularly care. So that's why, IMO, a celebrity is a better spokeperson than a "real person" like me.
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Post by finreporter on Jan 1, 2017 3:54:21 GMT
i find oprah potentially more relatable than a random person that lost 200+ lbs. like WC mentions, i can identify with someone that has a busy career. i may not be oprah business woman level 5000, but i do have to navigate the waters of a lot of business dinners and meals in the office and working long hours and that seems like things oprah would also have to deal with.
when you pay someone to cook for you and you have as much money as oprah, you probably also have to power to tell that chef exactly what you want to have prepared. and if you are tempted by indulgent meals, you may be inclined to ask them to cook you something you really shouldn't have. and since you're paying them, what are the chances they're going to say no, i'm making you 3 oz of chicken and some broccoli.
i think she has hurdles that may not be all of our EXACT hurdles, but are conceptually similar.
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Post by itsrad on Jan 1, 2017 15:03:53 GMT
I don't pay much attention to commercials in general ('m fast on the mute button when I watch TV), but I thought the new commercial I saw was pretty good. Many of us find her relatable because we've watched her yoyo journey over the last decades. I will admit when I watched it my thought was "Show me maintenance for 2-3 years and then we'll talk."
I've always found the argument that celebrities weren't good spokespeople because they have people to help them a bit empty. We all do our own eating, and our own decision making. When I fix a meal, I make the decision of how much of it to eat. I make the decision in a restaurant of what to order and how much of what I'm served to eat. Celebrities make the same decisions.
I also think that lifestyle would make it harder, not easier, to lose and maintain. Traveling, dinners out, parties - all the things we struggle with are their struggles also.
Bottom line - Oprah may get newbies in the door, but WW better figure out how to get them to stay.
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Post by gramyclark on Jan 1, 2017 18:45:19 GMT
I brought my "hungry" monster years ago at a Meeting. I still have it on my refrigerator.
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Post by gramyclark on Jan 1, 2017 18:46:42 GMT
I brought my "hungry" monster years ago at a Meeting. I still have it on my refrigerator.
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