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Post by nancy on Feb 9, 2021 5:15:12 GMT
WELCOME TO REGULAR & NEW POSTERS! This thread is full of encouragement & suggestions. New people, welcome! We encourage you to jump in. One day, one hour, one minute at a time is easier to handle than a week, etc. Lurkers, join in
Our goal is 21 days Binge Free (studies show 21 days to break old habits & start new ones!). Whether we make 21 or one, the point is to learn as we go, replace binges with other things to help us through stressful times. Some days are harder than others & we may slip; that's OK. The Binge Monster is in the shadows waiting to pounce. Hopefully this thread provides inspiration, courage, & support to become a Binge Survivor!
You may see different folks on different "Cycles." A Cycle is a 21 day block of consecutive binge-free days. Stay with us for as many cycles as you'd like.
Everyone's definition of a BINGE is different. The Oxford Dictionary defines a binge as a spree of eating and drinking. To many of us, BINGE is defined as "eating without dignity." The dictionary defines "dignity" as a calm and serious manner or style, showing suitable formality or indicating that one deserves respect. Only you can define what a binge is for you. Going over points, as long as it was done with dignity and journaled (thereforeacknowledged and "owned") isn't binging--it is up to you to decide.
SPECIAL THANKS TO LESLIE5609 for starting this challenge on the Out of Control Board, in August '02, and thanks to all who keep it going.
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Post by nancy on Feb 9, 2021 5:18:55 GMT
C114D4, 18 purple points, 1268 calories, 3x around mall with friend, cleared car of snow, line dancing, 9,190 steps
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Post by Jan on Feb 9, 2021 11:55:28 GMT
1919 calories 1240 exercise calories 119g protein 40g fiber 5g added sugar
Lori, good idea re: the tea. I’ll give it a try, thanks.
Kathy, oh no! Are they any better today? Maybe strep throat?..... Did you get the ax through the ice? Seems like that activity might be a little therapeutic :-)
Nancy, my Built Bar order comes tomorrow so I’ll let you know about the caramel brownie. Too bad about the cookies and cream. I have a box of that flavor coming too. How did you do the rest of the night? You had an active day so the extra calories/points shouldn’t be a problem.
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Post by nancy on Feb 9, 2021 13:24:20 GMT
Jan - I did have the last (thank goodness) Lindt truffle late last night, but nothing else despite an egregious inner battle. At one time I think I was allowing a little something just before bed. Maybe I need to get back to that. Maybe one small treat or a slice of 647 with one string cheese. I can't remember how that worked out. Seems it may be a way to eliminate the inner turmoil. I'm thinking going forward I could increase my goal to 19 points and 1300 calories but that would include the bedtime snack. It would use up my weeklies but I'd remain OP. What do you think? Yesterday became 22 points and 1343 calories.
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Post by Lori on Feb 9, 2021 14:38:26 GMT
Nancy, Reading your post, reminded me - I always had a WW mini bar before bed, at one point, I tried to stop having that last treat (thought it was a bad habit). Well, that didn’t work- I really missed that treat. So I thought about it, it’s 60-70 extra calories - if I can fit it in my calories, why not have it - that’s what I like to do. So I gave myself permission to include it, the days my calories allow. So now, I have a Something (1/2 built bar, WW bar) before bed and surprise, surprise - it worked out well. I pre-track it beginning of each day. Main thing is to stay within your weight loss and maintenance calories, this way the scale never goes up because of calories (can go up for other reasons), 2nd thing, you want to make sure you getting your protein (that will sometime determine, for me, if I chose a built bar or another 70 calorie treat).3rd, a good guideline is, keeping treats no more than 20% of daily calories. I would suggest trying to track your isolated meals (you don’t need to do it, at the time, but maybe go back and enter at the end of the week, just so you know we’re you are calorie wise...All just a suggestion/sharing what has worked well for me....
Jan, Love how you are tracking...... Do you use MFP to track? Wondering how you track your fiber?? After tracking calories and protein, the next I would like to track is fiber and I don’t see that on MFP...
Kathy, Sounds like the cold weather will be around for awhile....be careful with that ax......
Wishing everyone a Strong on program Day!!!
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Post by nancy on Feb 9, 2021 14:43:35 GMT
Lori - Great ideas to consider. Thanks. As for the fiber, click on "settings" on MFP and you can choose to track fiber.
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Post by frithfan on Feb 9, 2021 19:24:16 GMT
Lori: That podcast sounds good. Will check it out.
Jan: Right now I'm not planning or counting. (Can I still be here??) I'm trying to find a way to just do what I know to do. Right now I can't face any planning or counting. (Well, I do meal plans for the week before I shop.) Being off sugar helps, but isn't the total solution. Being diabetic, I really have to watch the carbs, too, and make sure I have protein at every meal and snack.
Kathy: Love the image of you axing through the ice for the cattle! Very "Little House on the Prairie." And so glad it's you and not me.
Peace.
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Post by nancy on Feb 9, 2021 20:08:56 GMT
Lori - Today I planned out my day allowing for a built bite before bed, and surprise, surprise, I came up with 18 points and 1198 calories. The only adjustment was to switch my air popped popcorn (10 PM with my meds) to 2 T instead of 4T. No problem at all. If time allows I'll add the day to MFP to see about protein and fiber. Sugar is a problem cuz they don't do added sugar and I don't want to worry about the sugar in fruit. Your post was most helpful. The only thing I won't follow is counting the restaurant dinner. For me that is such a rare occasion that I choose to isolate it. So at the end of the week or month it will be an average of x points, x calories + 1 isolated meal. I won't pig out and will be careful the rest of the day. I do have a question though. How do you define treats for the 20%. Obviously a kit kat or a Lindt chocolate or enlightened ice cream or the built bite. But how about the cheesecake? Anything else questionable?
Meg - What a silly question. You're more than welcome here no matter what you do or don't do. We're all in this together, constantly experimenting and trying out new techniques and new mindsets. Some count points, some count calories, some count both, some never count, some try intermittent fasting. The only constant is no judgment. We support and learn from each other. No rules. But you already know that, don't you? Bottom line: we're thrilled to have you back and hope you'll continue to hang out with us.
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Post by Lori on Feb 9, 2021 23:40:36 GMT
Nancy, If the treat has no nutritional value, it’s a Treat. Since the cheesecake is made with yogurt, cottage cheese and egg, it’s a healthy snack or meal....hope that helps...I also added a Treat category on MFP so it’s easier to see how many treats, I’m having. I see on the Nutrition tab, under nutrients, I see fiber count but not on the Diary. Is that the same for you??
Jan, Wondering what nutritional percentages do you shoot for? Looks like my weekly average has been about 50% Carbs, 30% Protein and 20% Fat.... Wondering if that’s good for should be adjusted??
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Post by Lori on Feb 9, 2021 23:44:10 GMT
Meg, wanted to mention, if you don’t have time to listen to half Size me podcast, she (Heather) also has short (3 to 5 min) utube postings that help get you in the right mindset, when needed
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Post by Jan on Feb 10, 2021 1:11:13 GMT
Nancy, what worked for us at one time may not work for us now. Do you remember everyone doing K closed many years ago, and how successful we all were with it? I know it wouldn’t work for me now. You should definitely try allowing the pre-bedtime snacks. I know I enjoy eating in the evening, and I think you do too. At some point we have to allow ourselves some enjoyment and freedom, within boundaries of course.
Lori, I don’t track my macros. Your percentages look good, and they’re obviously working for you. Do you track on a computer or your phone/ipad? I use my iPhone And just click on the top bar that says “calories remaining”. It takes me right to my nutritionals. You can also see your macros. I’m still not a fan of the tea. I think it’s the Stevia. Would you drink it if I sent it to you?
Meg, oh if you only knew how many years I went without tracking. It’s just the stage of life I was in. Most people I know can’t fathom tracking their food everyday. Now I can’t imagine not doing it. So with the treats, I would suggest eating as usual on the weekend and planning ahead what treat you’ll have, and how much. Example, chocolate cake, half the recipe. Ha, not really, but some days it’s tempting.
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