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Post by Jennifer on Jun 9, 2021 13:33:19 GMT
Of everything .. I am not vaccinated yet, I keep going back and forth. One moment ready to get it this minute and the next I am not. I've let my drug mart link expire twice, sure I'd want to go there I know the pharmacist and it's right up the street.
With the changes in mask mandates, I'd starting to feel like I'm wearing a scarlet letter by wearing a mask. I have to wear one at the salon and at ww. I am wearing them at the grocery store but, fewer and fewer people are wearing them, and I am doubting all are vaccinated.
I'm starting to feel pressure to get it done so I am not made a fool of, that's not right either.
How do I get myself to make the leap?
I am so conflicted .. :-(
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Post by luanne on Jun 9, 2021 15:21:46 GMT
I guess you'd have to look at what is making you reluctant to get vaccinated. I know that I, and pretty much all of my friends and family, were chomping at the bit. My hairdresser even drove from New Mexico to Texas for his first shot, and to Colorado for his second shot. I didn't think I knew anyone who had chosen not to get vaccinated until we heard that one of our neighbors had not.
Even though we are vaccinated we still wear masks, of course where they are mandated, but dh wears one pretty much all of the time. I'm a bit more relaxed, but I do wear one when I'm in stores, even if it's not required.
I hope you take the leap and get the vaccination.
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Post by lani on Jun 9, 2021 16:28:04 GMT
The information I have seen suggests being vaccinated after actually having the virus gives you the best level of protection available.
My feeling is the vaxes are perfectly safe. The two shot regime is more effective against the new variants coming around, so I believe from following the latest news, as best I can.
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Post by bbbearsmom on Jun 9, 2021 17:12:17 GMT
Jennifer, What is keeping you from getting vaccinated? You need to look into that. You could do the old "vertical line down the middle of a piece of paper and put the pros on one side and the cons on the other" routine, and see what that shows you. The vaccination is good protection from the variants that are going around.
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Post by Jennifer on Jun 9, 2021 18:05:46 GMT
Jennifer, What is keeping you from getting vaccinated? Blood clots Paralysis Bells palsy Heart issues- myocarditis Changes in innate immune system. Specifically tumor necrosis factor which helps your body kill cancer cells. My anxiety is through the roof with all of this.
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Post by bbbearsmom on Jun 9, 2021 19:29:57 GMT
Jennifer, That is quite a list. I don't think I even knew about all of those side effects. I don't know what to tell you on this. I didn't worry about the side effects. Are you generally an anxious person? With that level of anxiety I don't think anyone is going to talk you into getting the vaccination because no one can say they know you'll be 100% okay, even though the odds are that you will be okay. How do you usually work through an anxiety attack? If you can't work through the pain of the anxiety to get the shot(s) you'll have to accept living without being vaccinated, which can bring on anxiety too. Sorry you are going through this.
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Post by DotRen on Jun 9, 2021 21:22:10 GMT
Jennifer, I am the same way. The cdc and all say it's safe (moderna and pfizer) for people who've had guillain-barre, and I know Deb got hers with no problem, but I'm on a facebook page and a lot of people are saying the vaccines either triggered a relapse or a first time episode. I talked to Ron about my fears (he and JD are both vaccinated) and he told me it's up to me. But part of me feels like I'm keeping both of them from getting out and enjoying "normal", you know? I have decided to wait until late July and let a few months of data about GBS get into the records before I decide. Ron said he won't get a booster unless there's a big uptick in new cases from variants in September or whenever they're suggesting a booster.
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Post by Jennifer on Jun 10, 2021 11:39:16 GMT
DotRen I do understand. The pressure is on though isn't it? Just not sure it's for all the right reasons. Because I've come really close to scheduling an appointment, I see in the questioair they ask about having or have had gillian barr. I don't know what it means or what happens if you select yes. I'm going to a WW meeting this morning, let's see how foolish I feel to be the only one wearing a mask. I'll be working at the salon tomorrow, I feel I need to have this discussion with each person. Last week just about everyone said.. "I'm fully vaccinated, you don't have to wear a mask." I feel like just getting the damn thing so I don't have to deal with this anymore
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Post by DotRen on Jun 10, 2021 11:46:05 GMT
Jennifer, your concerns matter, don't let anyone pressure you into doing it if your fears have not been addressed by the studies to back it up.
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Post by lani on Jun 10, 2021 15:57:40 GMT
Jennifer, what DotRen, said. With all those issues I would be hesitant as well. I wonder if you already having the disease would suggest you would tolerate the vaccine? I don't know the answer. I think there will be plenty of people who continue to wear masks for quite a while.
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Post by Jennifer on Jun 10, 2021 16:34:07 GMT
Jennifer , what DotRen , said. With all those issues I would be hesitant as well. I wonder if you already having the disease would suggest you would tolerate the vaccine? I don't know the answer. I think there will be plenty of people who continue to wear masks for quite a while. 0 people with masks at the ww meeting today. Lani, what I posted above are all the side affects I am afraid of, not issues that I have. I am reading more and more studies showing that natural immunity is lasting for quite a long time, they do not know how long yet. After the initial immunity leaves our body, we have B and T cells that live in our bone marrow. Nice to hear but much like everything else, I don't trust it.
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Post by lani on Jun 10, 2021 21:29:59 GMT
Jennifer, got it. You have to do what you are comfortable with. Personally, I believe the benefits of vaxing far, far out weight the risks, but that is my opinion.
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Post by surfgirl on Jun 15, 2021 1:18:58 GMT
Jennifer , What is keeping you from getting vaccinated? Blood clots Paralysis Bells palsy Heart issues- myocarditis Changes in innate immune system. Specifically tumor necrosis factor which helps your body kill cancer cells. My anxiety is through the roof with all of this. Where is this list from? I ask because the below link has the actual potential reactions and they are not those listed above:
If by 'blood clots' you're referring to the handful of women ages 18-49 who had blood clots a couple/few months back from J&J and/or Astra Zeneca (the latter isn't available here in the US so it's moot), there are far greater risks of such things taking birth control pills, so that gives you some idea of how small that pool of people really is, it's like fit on the head of a pin small, compared to the Pill.
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Post by Jennifer on Jun 15, 2021 15:30:23 GMT
Surfgirl multiple studies, articles, and friend accounts of people they know.
I do have a hair client that is a scientist and she so graciously read one of the studies 1 paragraph at a time and explained it to me. Made me feel slightly better but I am still scared.
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Post by surfgirl on Jun 15, 2021 23:04:35 GMT
Surfgirl multiple studies, articles, and friend accounts of people they know. I do have a hair client that is a scientist and she so graciously read one of the studies 1 paragraph at a time and explained it to me. Made me feel slightly better but I am still scared. None of those are reputable sources and that's where you're getting stuck. There are many 'studies' and 'articles' that look legit but are from anti-vax websites, etc. There are also people claiming to have bad side affects just to stir the pot and stoke fear in people. And what people hear other people say isn't fact either, it's gossip, much of it started to make people afraid. If these friends of friends aren't trained global health epidemiologists, or pharmacologists then it's just rumors.
The only website providing legitimate research, studies and results related to the vaccines available in the USA is:
There is no reason that official data has been misrepresented there. It is all available for you to read, you don't need to sign up or anything.
The other reputable website with facts is the WHO site:
WHO statistics show that, "In the United States of America, from 3 January 2020 to 5:21pm CEST, 15 June 2021, there have been 33,140,498 confirmed cases of COVID-19 with 594,644 deaths, reported to WHO. As of 11 June 2021, a total of 309,004,429 vaccine doses have been administered."
So, over 309,004,429 vaccine doses have been given out as of right now, and if the list of reactions you posted - none of which are reactions to the vaccine - were really real and attributed to the vaccine, they would not have given out over 309 million doses of them because there would have been more issues to report. In fact, the reality is that the J&J and Astra Zeneca vaccines were temporarily halted when literally a handful of woman had clotting issues, and after further research that was debunked (and the number of women who had issues was infinitesimal compared to clotting issues related to The Pill, and millions of woman take that risk and choose the Pill every day). If all the things you mention were actually directly related to the vaccines, they would have stopped distribution of them to further research those as well. They didn't do that because those things are not related to the vaccine. Those are the simple facts. If one goes looking for information that is not science/factually based, there is a lot of bunk out there so consider the sources. Then again, I am trained in international public health and have worked on global pandemics and I know where the science is, and what organizations to look to for reliable information, which is why I shared the two links above. I hope they are helpful in easing your mind.
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