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Post by NatureLover on Sept 21, 2021 16:48:39 GMT
I think that option should remain available, come on WW, money is money. There are also the people who live paycheck to paycheck and just can't come up with a lump sum of money at one time, but can budget for a weekly fee. True! WW should be glad for any payment that walks in the door. Bad move.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 22:52:11 GMT
An older, quiet woman who always sits in the back at my meeting knitting was LIVID this weekend! She approached our leader after the meeting, and the gist of what I overheard is they are doing away with pay as you go and you must buy the pass. Our leader kept apologizing but she wasn't hearing it. Hoo-wee she was angry. It's too bad they're going to rub out the holdouts who want to pay week by week. When I was still working there I weighed members who feared any type of online activity at all - paid mortgage at the bank, used paper checkbook for everything, etc. To them the Monthly Pass was a demon tool to hack their personal information and have WW spy on them. I think that option should remain available, come on WW, money is money. Wow, that is one excellent post. I totally agree. So grateful I follow an older WW plan that is super easy to just follow at home, on my own, because I don’t like the direction WW is heading. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Weight Watchers lost its heart. It just seems they don’t care about their longtime members anymore. I know it’s big business, but so much has changed. I guess time will truly tell.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 22:53:04 GMT
There are also the people who live paycheck to paycheck and just can't come up with a lump sum of money at one time, but can budget for a weekly fee. True! WW should be glad for any payment that walks in the door. Bad move. Yes Roz!
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Post by Kitty on Sept 21, 2021 23:28:04 GMT
NatureLover, It is sometimes hard to remember that there are people who don't use the internet at all. There are people who do not have smart phones and have no home internet so they can't look up everything on line. Some people don't have credit cards and don't want to use debit cards, etc. My late mother just never got into the internet. She retired before it was really a thing and she was so annoyed when she would call people and they would tell her to just go do X online. She had no idea how to do anything online. Now, she was admittedly in in her 90s and I guess that generation is, well, dying off. Pay as you go was also valuable for people who were lifetime over goal and wanted to attend the occasional meeting but didn't want to pay for a monthly pass (back when you had to pay to attend meetings if over goal). Since lifetime people didn't have to pay missed meeting fees when I was over goal I would occasionally go an pay for a meeting and it was cheaper to do that a couple of times a month than do monthly pass. Anyway - it is clear that WW wants all member to be digital members. Some members pay extra to be able to attend workshops (monthly pass people) but everyone pays for digital. There is just not any other option if you want to be active members.
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Post by cathygeha on Sept 22, 2021 7:59:08 GMT
My, oh my, OH MY!
What a tangled web they weave!
My first thought was *I* choose my zero point foods? and then first to pop into mind were wine, chocolate, sweets, and other HIGH POINT foods and wondered just how this would work out. I will follow from a distance and see how it goes. I have been on/tried most of their plans over the decades and know which ones were easier/harder/made more or less sense...to me. I can see offshoots like religious groups breaking off as this happens...with weight watchers exchange followers here and Core people there, and SF people in another spot...etc.
Goodness!
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Post by Laura M on Sept 22, 2021 11:32:05 GMT
My guess (and it is only a guess) is you will pick the foods you eat off a list (most likely the list from Simply Filling or similar) and then you'll pick a certain number of off list foods to add to your zero list.
My question is how do you get the app to work individually for each person? Sounds like chaos!
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Post by Laura M on Sept 22, 2021 15:02:10 GMT
True! WW should be glad for any payment that walks in the door. Bad move. Yes Roz! I don't think this is a good idea at all, especially for those who aren't electronically inclined. Some banks/stores have Prepaid Visa cards that could be useful. You can go to the store/bank to have more funds loaded on the card. The card could then be used and perhaps WW could just attach that card number to your account.
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Post by linda72 on Sept 22, 2021 21:20:02 GMT
My question is how do you get the app to work individually for each person? Sounds like chaos! WW seems to live in chaos!
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Post by squid on Sept 23, 2021 8:37:33 GMT
Yesterday I watched a video on YouTube by Barrett Pastor. She dropped some hints about upcoming changes, mostly what we've been discussing here. She did say the new plan would be "diabetic friendly" which I interpreted to mean someone pre-diabetic or diabetic could use it as a weight loss tool, but the group leader wouldn't be actively involved in helping the member to regulate or manage their disease. Barrett also said the "wellness for everyone" approach hasn't been a rousing success, and the new plan will be more focused on weight loss (duh!).
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Post by squid on Sept 23, 2021 10:09:01 GMT
I went back and re-watched the video. Here are the main points:
- the 3 food plans didn't necessarily work out as planned - health & wellness didn't work w/branding - new plan will be customizable, and be lower sugar, diabetes friendly, and good for those who are insulin resistant - WW will continue to beef up digital platform and offer more instruction on how to use app - will continue online mtgs. but also re-open more in-person mtgs. - product line will be more "healthy" (whatever that means) - plan will be adaptable to vegan, vegetarian, gluten free, etc.
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Post by DotRen on Sept 23, 2021 11:43:42 GMT
I saw her video yesterday, too - I am thinking, just by her phrasing and the other comments online, that the "diabetic friendly" likely means lower-carb and lower-glycemic options without penalties (like chickpea and lentil pasta at lower points because of the higher fiber and lower blood sugar impact). At least that's what I took away from her video
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Post by DebDoesWW on Sept 23, 2021 12:35:41 GMT
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Post by Laura M on Sept 23, 2021 15:03:45 GMT
I've followed Barrett for a while and watched her video yesterday; but she really wasn't saying more than we already knew. And it isn't Top Secret.....it's suppose to be but in this day and age you can't prevent it.
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Post by borntexan on Sept 23, 2021 16:16:10 GMT
My question is how do you get the app to work individually for each person? Sounds like chaos! WW seems to live in chaos! Well said
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Post by sawtex on Sept 23, 2021 16:31:25 GMT
From what I remember when "myWW" was getting ready to rollout Barrett and the "N" is for Nurse lady had someone from the inside that was giving them info as a way to get everyone excited about the new plan. After a few videos about the rumors they were hearing they received the official books to show their followers. Guess we will see if that is the case this time.
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