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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 21:35:36 GMT
Thank you Louis. Although I have switched to low carb, I am still very interested in WW. If there is a total revamp of the program to get rid of Smartpoints, that is even better! Oh well, before we know it, November will be here. Really miss my decades, on and off, of meetings. There is nothing like human contact.
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Post by louisstone on Aug 5, 2021 3:39:37 GMT
Thank you Louis. Although I have switched to low carb, I am still very interested in WW. If there is a total revamp of the program to get rid of Smartpoints, that is even better! Oh well, before we know it, November will be here. Really miss my decades, on and off, of meetings. There is nothing like human contact. I don't really.envision that big of a change. This should be the iteration where they introduce some sort of Quick Start thing or enhancements that nibble on the edges. Not much has changed in the science of late. That said - I'll remind you all that I have left WW'ers employ, so my guess is only slightly better educated than most.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 11:26:18 GMT
Thanks Louis. You might be right. Getting rid of Smartpoints would be a very major change. But then again, don’t they really shake things up every few years? Oh well, time will tell. In the meantime I am enjoying just counting carb grams and keeping it very simple. I believe I remember you from back in the days of the official WW message boards. So much has changed! Stay safe everyone.
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Post by Laura M on Aug 9, 2021 19:37:54 GMT
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Post by DebDoesWW on Aug 9, 2021 20:21:40 GMT
Woot woot Laura M the super-sleuth!! You were the one that alerted us the last time too. you need to change your profession. 🕵️🔍
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Post by Laura M on Aug 9, 2021 22:00:12 GMT
Can't seem to find any patents though!
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Post by Kitty on Aug 9, 2021 22:25:04 GMT
mac, The article basically seems to come from the last earnings call. Here is where I talked abou t it: wwmessageboard.freeforums.net/thread/64010/ww-earnings-callWW posts its earnings tomorrow and so there should be an earnings call then. I'll read and see what it is says although that is always very vague. At best you get an idea as to whether the changes are "big" or minor. Based upon history I would expect this to be a "big" year although I do expect them to continue using a points type system. They might still call it SmartPoints, but they could easily change how points are calculated in some way. Usually they have a fairly big revamp done every 5 to 6 years. Points Plus was announced in December 2010 and Beyond the Scale in 2015. There were a few years without a lot of changes then the adding the ability to do blue, green or purple a couple of years ago. Based upon past history and the earnings call statements I expect this to be a fairly big revamp. That said, they have had points based systems for many years now and I would be surprised to see that go away. That still leaves a lot of room for changes though.
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Post by Laura M on Aug 9, 2021 23:07:10 GMT
Okay, found some patents:
#90148716 Filed 8/31/20 for something called "WW Delivered"
#90690148 Filed 05/04/21 for a logo (which looks exactly like what they have now)
#90779506, 90779479, 90779462 all Filed on 06/17/21 for something called "Personal Points".
Sorry not much detail on Personal Points.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 23:38:22 GMT
Laura! GREAT detective work! Wow, if you found new patents, that means buh-bye Smartpoints, I would venture to say. Hmmm…Personal Points? This will be interesting. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2021 0:11:15 GMT
Laura, could you link the website for the patents? I am googling, but just can’t find it! Thanks.
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Post by Laura M on Aug 10, 2021 3:03:53 GMT
linkAnd I just put WW in the first search box and then clicked submit query. There's LOTS and some of them do not pertain to WW.
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Post by DebDoesWW on Aug 10, 2021 13:04:36 GMT
Laura M you are GOOD! Wonder if the "WW delivered" one was when they gave a try at entering the boxed food delivered market. I think they teamed up with Hello Fresh, Blue Apron?! Can't remember which one and thought it was earlier than that. "Personal Points", fingers crossed that whatever points system it uses puts "SmartPoints" in the rearview mirror.
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Post by Laura M on Aug 10, 2021 16:29:26 GMT
Hopefully smartpoints will be gone.......but I keep worrying that the change will be just a "name" change and nothing more.
I'll keep digging!! I remember last time some of those "trialiers" starting talking on instagram & such.... or their friends of a friends of a friend did! I remember one posting how happy all the Points Plus people would be....well, that didn't happen. Bringing back a program that you count everything but fruits/veggies but using smartpoints for the equation..wasn't gonna make us happy!
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Post by Kitty on Aug 10, 2021 22:28:35 GMT
Laura M, There is not a lot of information about Personal Points because those numbers point to service marks. The detail would be in the patent. But the patents are often hard to find. The applicants are usually individual people at WW and then the patent is assigned to WW. They could be assigning the patent to some subsidiary company that does not have Weight or WW in the name. That also makes it hard to find. The patent often describes the system (somewhat obscurely) but won't use the name
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Post by squid on Aug 10, 2021 22:56:56 GMT
WW is owned by Artal Luxembourg, S.A. if that's any help.
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