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Post by luanne on Feb 20, 2022 17:27:13 GMT
Harold just heard on the CBS news radio that the Russian troops have been given the order for the invasion. Just an hour ago there was a report that Putin and Macron had agreed to work for a ceasefire.
And it looks like the statement about Russian troops having been given the order has been rescinded.
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Post by bbbearsmom on Feb 20, 2022 17:48:02 GMT
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Post by luanne on Feb 20, 2022 18:45:22 GMT
I think things are still just very much in the air. Could change from moment to moment.
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Post by birdgal on Feb 20, 2022 20:17:33 GMT
I don't think there will ever be peace on earth among humans, no matter what's written on a Christmas card.
Peace is something we must do, not just talk or sing about. I don't think it's possible among human beings.
Man made governments and religions aren't capable of making peace on earth among humans a reality. If they were don't you think it would be a reality by now?
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Post by amyrs on Feb 21, 2022 20:03:57 GMT
We need nato to go in and join them. they stand no chance against Russia.
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Post by amyrs on Feb 21, 2022 23:10:08 GMT
we need all the sancitions against Russia done now . I sent a message to Biden that I fear for the Ukraine they stand no chance and
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Post by lani on Feb 22, 2022 19:47:25 GMT
I am heartened that Germany is refusing to certify the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. (Natural gas pipeline from Russia to Germany, bypassing Ukraine where it currently goes through.) After Fukushima Germany closed its nuclear plants leaving it almost entirely dependent on Russian oil. So this would be a big economic deal for Germany if they can't get Russian natural gas.
There has been a lot of speculation that China might prop up the Russian economy against western sanctions. However, China's need to trade with the EU and US would take precedence over helping Russia, and destabilizing the world economy. IMO of course, based on what I have been seeing, hearing and reading.
There are a lot of moving parts.
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Post by amyrs on Feb 22, 2022 21:00:10 GMT
I am heartend that some German tropps and American troops are in Poland.
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Post by lani on Feb 23, 2022 16:10:34 GMT
A few sources (BBC Outside Source, WSJ and CNBC) have reported that Russia has about two years worth of assets that are not tied to western control - enough to keep his country running and keep the oligarchs whole. So much for sanctions.
Putin has been moving Russia's debt away from western countries and built up its stock of gold and foreign currency (not with EU, U.S. or allies) since 2014. He has been planning this for a long time.
Also he has plenty of places he can sell nat gas to other than the EU.
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Post by DotRen on Feb 23, 2022 19:34:38 GMT
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Post by bbbearsmom on Feb 23, 2022 20:32:52 GMT
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Post by amyrs on Feb 23, 2022 21:29:17 GMT
That guy at 9 eastern time on fox is also suing anit democratic. values and doign traitors things about democaries. He is cynical he i s vacinatted and bo osted his daddy was rich he is a horribl e propogadist against our democracy
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Post by DotRen on Feb 23, 2022 23:52:41 GMT
It's not a shock- Trump equates oppressing people who disagree with you as "keeping the peace"
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Post by birdgal on Feb 23, 2022 23:57:17 GMT
That thing known as don trump is an obnoxious jerk who would not even be noticed if it wasn't for his daddies money. Trump is a joke and a waste of flesh. It scares me how many people admire and support such a dangerous thing. What does that say about the citizens of the US?
Not much!
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Post by luanne on Feb 24, 2022 0:02:30 GMT
I just finished reading the book by Hillary Clinton and Louise Penny "State of Terror". Oh so many similarities to current events.
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