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Post by lani on Oct 11, 2023 13:57:14 GMT
lani , The two-state solution has been off of the table for a while. Israel realizes that the Palestinians want to destroy Israel and kill all of the Jews, and the Palestinians having their own state won't change that. I don't believe all Palestinians support the actions of Hamas. Check "History of Palestine", first section, the Overview, on Wikipedia. It is a good primer on the region.
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Post by birdgal on Oct 11, 2023 18:14:55 GMT
Thugs, bullies, and crazy people make headlines. Gentle, caring, and sane people don't.
We are the only species that hates our own species if they don't look like us or believe the things we believe.
We worship a God or a Goddess one day a week and ask Her or Him to make us victorious over those who are different.
Intelligent? Says who? We do. That's who.
I don't believe all Palestine people support thugs and murderers either. Anymore than every single citizen of the USA supports or supported all the wars, all the killing of innocent children, wildlife, pets, Moms, Dads, and Nature!
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Post by finreporter on Oct 11, 2023 19:36:35 GMT
I read something recently as well that said Palestinians want peace too. It's the terrorist group from their side of the fence that is being the violent bully. I'm devastated at what is going on and how innocent Palestinians are also now being attacked through the retaliatory air strikes.
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Post by DotRen on Oct 12, 2023 12:02:09 GMT
Saw this and the comments were "can we hire her to follow Trump, LB and MTG around?" lol
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Post by birdgal on Oct 12, 2023 19:50:08 GMT
They'd love the attention and have no idea what that word means. Although, I'd still like to see it happen.
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Post by amyrs on Oct 13, 2023 15:15:20 GMT
I hope Palestinians use the 24 hours to go South. There are leaflets everywhere. I wish Egypt would greet them while Isrrael goes to the North on Gaza
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Post by lani on Oct 15, 2023 13:53:08 GMT
Egypt's border is closed. This does not look good. What did Hamas think was going to happen? I guess they just wanted to bring chaos.
ETA: Just watching Fareed Zakaria on CNN this AM. Apparently, Netanyahu's not-so-secret policy in the past few years has been to strengthen Hamas and undermine The Palestinian Authority. This is being printed in Israeli newspapers. I'm not sure if the motive was to just disrupt any cohesion among Palestinians or to enable Netanyahu to be ever more oppressive on Gaza. Didn't work out.
Also the consensus is that the Israeli government was so focused on the changes in their supreme court that they took their eye off of intelligence reports which is why the attack was such a surprise.
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Post by finreporter on Oct 15, 2023 18:32:46 GMT
I have colleagues in Israel and I had reached out asking if they and their families were safe. Fortunately 2 of 3 colleagues are and one who was in army reserve is now in active duty. They did not have kind things to say about their president.
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Post by birdgal on Oct 15, 2023 18:36:56 GMT
I'm so tired of wars, hatred, senseless killings and deceit. We insist on calling ourselves the intelligent species.
We hate others who don't have the same color skin, who believe in a different Goddess or God, who live in a another part of the planet, who speak another language, who don't love or marry the people we want them to spend their lives with, and on and on.
Does anybody know why we can't live and let live? How difficult could it be to mind our own damn business? Anybody know?
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Post by amyrs on Oct 20, 2023 8:03:24 GMT
I just hope President Biden is reelected and we get a 2 state solution or a variant where we do have peace, I believe like FDR only he will do it.
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Post by lani on Oct 20, 2023 13:42:50 GMT
amyrs, I'm afraid I don't see any resolution to the Israel/Palestine problem. But at least Biden got aid to Gaza via Egypt. Can you imagine if You-Know-Who were in charge? Oh, that's right, the attack never would have happened - according to him.
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Post by birdgal on Oct 20, 2023 15:34:47 GMT
How does he know that? Does he have friends in lower places? Buddies he discusses these things with? Perhaps made a deal? Who knows?
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Post by lani on Oct 20, 2023 17:58:28 GMT
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Post by DotRen on Oct 20, 2023 18:48:29 GMT
birdgal, his friends in low places are the voices in his head lol
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Post by bbbearsmom on Oct 20, 2023 19:24:45 GMT
Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro both pleaded guilty to their charges as part of a plea deal that will keep them out of prison if they cooperate and testify against the other defendants. This is the Georgia election case.
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