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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 13:19:42 GMT
We are a group of like-minded people that gather to discuss a host of topics from weight loss, to current events. Our thread celebrates liberal diversity, welcomes new friends, and respects all opinions. We count everything from calories to points but, we never count our chickens before they are hatched.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 14:26:27 GMT
President Donald J. Trump offers an explanation for why he has one of the wealthiest cabinets in history: "I love all people — rich or poor — but in those particular positions, I just don't want a poor person," he says at a rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. "Does that make sense? If you insist, I'll do it — but I like it better this way." cnn.it/2rYZZ1tSo, much for "feeling the love" for the lower income & middle class people who believed in him to solve their problems. He cares nothing for anyone but himself & those that can help him line his pockets & theirs in return. 😝
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2017 15:03:05 GMT
Some Democrats are publicly saying that we need new leadership in the party, and in particular that Nancy Pelosi needs to go. Certainly something needs to change, because right now we are losing rather than winning even if the special elections are close. Close doesn't cut it. We need wins. One of the things Rs go after us with is Nancy Pelosi. I'm not sure why they dislike her so much. Maybe it's because she's a strong woman, just as they can't stand Hillary. I don't know if Pelosi needs to leave or not, but I know something better change fast. We are not getting our message out strongly enough. Because I just can not believe that if we were, the poor and lower middle class would continue to vote R even though the Rs have been smart enough to tie themselves into religion and portray the Democrats as the party of the devil. If we got the truth out well enough, that Rs are trying to destroy healthcare, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security so that those voters actually understood what is happening I simply can't believe they would vote for that. I see posts all the time on my FB page from people who are voting a straight R ticket saying how we have to save those exact programs. They seem to have no clue that Rs are trying to get rid of them, so clearly we are not getting the message out there clearly enough.
I always like to hear David Gergen's comments on CNN as he's usually very thoughtful and pretty well balanced. He's worked under 4 different presidents--3 Rs and 1 D. He says, "What's really important is that Donald Trump has seized the narrative back, that he's doing better with the voters than Democrats think he is," he said. "It should be a wake-up call for Democrats. It is possible that he could actually get re-elected if Democrats aren't careful." That's a scary thought! I can accept a Republican winning although I don't want to, but to be stuck with the disaster we have now in the Oval for another 4 years very possibly will destroy this country behind any recognition. That's a very serious thought, and I'm hoping that the DNC and powers that be are waking up to that possibility. We need to be getting the message out there, and if those in charge now aren't able to do that then we need someone in charge who can. What good does it do to stand up for the little guy if the little guy doesn't know you're doing that and doesn't vote you into office?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 15:29:02 GMT
I'm sure the reason Tweety calls the Russia intervention into our voting process Fake News, etc, is because he is relying on his "bro" Putin to help reelect him in 2020. So, why would he try to investigate & stop Russian intervention. I'm just so disgusted with everything political today. 😝😝😝
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2017 18:42:31 GMT
So the Senate bill makes big cuts to Medicaid. The very people who need help the most. As it stands it will have a huge affect on all age groups. My particular concern right now is with older citizens. I don't think a lot of people realize that Medicare does not pay ANYTHING towards nursing home care. They pay NOTHING. So if a senior citizen is in need of nursing home care, they have to pay out of pocket or be subsidized by Medicaid. In order to qualify for Medicaid now, you have to be down to almost $0 funds. I think it is less than $2,000 that you can have in a bank account. You can still own a car, and you can still own your house, for example if one spouse still lives there, BUT once you die your house can be taken to reimburse Medicaid. (By the way, I have no quarrel with that.) If you have any monthly income, that is taken and subtracted from what Medicaid pays for the nursing home care. (I have no quarrel with that either.) If you have any life insurance policies, those have to be cashed in before you can qualify for Medicaid. (I don't have a quarrel with that.) If federal Medicaid funds are cut then it is going to be even more difficult to qualify for Medicaid. In my area right now the current cost for nursing home care for one person is more than $8,000+ per month. That is for the board and nursing care. It does NOT include any medicine. You pay for that on top of what it costs for the nursing home. How many people do you know who can afford to do that for a long period of time, and people are living longer so many people are in nursing homes for years. It is completely unsustainable. My area is probably pretty average. Some places such as the Northeast and West Coast are likely more expensive, while there are probably also some areas of the country where it is less expensive. But, if it is less expensive that probably means the area generally has a lower cost of living, and lower salaries, and thus elderly citizens with less financial means based on what they have been able to earn and save over the years.
States can't afford to pick up all the burden for Medicaid. They're over burdened now in trying to provide for education, roads, etc. So where's the answer? And that's just the problem for the sick and elderly who need skilled nursing care on a long term basis. It doesn't take into account the poor who often tend to be sicker because of diet and not getting regular medical attention before an issue becomes serious. It doesn't take into account children born into poor families.
Cutting Medicaid in order to give tax breaks to the wealthy is insanity. It really makes me angry! I don't think most people realize what that would actually mean. Until I became the caregiver for my parents, I had no idea how expensive everything was. I didn't know Medicare doesn't pay anything on nursing homes. I assumed they didn't pay for assisted living, but had no idea they didn't pay for skilled nursing homes.
So if you are old and sick or if you ever will be old and sick, you better hope you just go ahead and die because otherwise if Republicans have their way you are going to be SOL.
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2017 18:56:39 GMT
So Tweety says he didn't record his meetings with Comey. I think we all thought there were no tapes. But he says he has no idea if such tapes could exist implying that maybe someone else could have recorded the meetings. Who? Putin? This guy just loves drama, and always wants to try and stir the pot. So instead of saying I made the whole thing up, all he knows is that he didn't make any tapes. What a jerk!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 19:08:53 GMT
Yup, you are right on everything you said, Joyce. We learned all this from putting DH's parents in the Nursing Home many years ago & now with my Mom. ND is one of the most expensive states as far as NH care. Almost $9000 or more a month. Plus, since I live in a rural community, our local nursing home is in real trouble already with the real chance it will close in a couple months. So, there are going to be many scrambling to find a place for their loved ones. We moved my mom from here, to right across the state line in MT a few years ago. It is a smaller NH but very nice & is $36,000 a year cheaper than here in town, but she is private pay & will soon be out of funds. So, then what? Especially if Medicaid is cut. Also, my son is on Medicare & Medicaid & the program he attends daily is state funded & relys on Medicaid ..His recipient liability is $23 a month to attend this work program. I fear that the ABLE Center & Indepentent Assisted Living Facilities that Special Needs people use here in town will be shut down if it is left up to the states to decide willy nilly who & what to pay for with Medicaid. What a freaking big mess! So, so many things in this horrible health care bill will be quite devastating down the line. Wake up Trump supporters, you will be hit just as hard, too. AND now because you voted this idiot in to office we all suffer...UGH!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 19:15:23 GMT
Jerk isn't a word I would use to describe Tweety & I think you probably could agree, way better words to describe this disgusting piece of human flesh!....But only him , his family & deplorables who voted for him would view this as an amusing game. Disgusting & many seem to be saying the same thing on commenting on this on TV & it's not Dem's saying all this, it's Conservatives too!...I think this tweet today is going to backfire "biggly" 😝😝😝
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 20:12:13 GMT
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2017 21:11:00 GMT
Linda, this whole health care issue is really scary. People need to wake up and realize what is happening here. Most of the people who may read this thread probably think, "Oh, I don't use Medicaid . . ." Well, they may not now, but sooner or later unless your are very wealthy, extremely healthy, or die first it is going to become an issue for each one of us or for someone each of us loves. This is serious stuff. There is no way that states can carry the burden. So for anyone who thinks cutting Medicaid funds is a good idea, I'd truly like to know how they plan to solve the issue of people sick and in need? Because if they see a way around this, they are certainly smarter than me, and I'd be happy for them to step up to the plate and offer a solution. Otherwise, if this bill passes as stands we are in "bigly" trouble!
Stepping down off the soap box. As you can see, this really concerns me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 21:49:37 GMT
Well, not only the elderly, special needs or those with pre existing conditions, it will impact single parents & young kids who can be covered by Medicaid & take advantage of other wellness programs designed to help. Think of all the unwed teens who become pregnant & all the programs out there that help them & their babies & now will be cut . Programs clearly implemented by Democrats & these are the same programs vilified by Conservatives. Well, when these programs are gone, a lot of people will be hurt, so do the Conservatives have an answer to this? I sure haven't heard one.
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Post by doordie50 on Jun 22, 2017 22:37:17 GMT
What a mess!
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Post by yogamama007 on Jun 22, 2017 22:41:32 GMT
Sure they have an answer, they will follow their leader and say:
ALL YOU POOR PEOPLE OFF THE W.H. GRASS.
MEN INTO THE COAL MINES AND SALT MINES TO MAKE MORE RICHES FOR OUR BELOVED LEADER AND HIS CABINET. WOMEN OF CHILDBEARING AGE, WE WANT YOU BARE FOOT AND PREGNANT AND BACK IN THE KITCHEN (YES, BAREFOOTED EVEN IN THE WINTER). SAVE THAT SHOELEATHER FOR BELOVED 1st DAUGHTER'S COMPANIES.
DO NOT LET THE SHADOW OF A POOR PERSON FALL ON OUR BELOVED LEADER. HE WHO DESCENDED FROM UP HIGH TO LEAD AMERICA IN TO THE PITS OF HELL AND DESPAIR .
REJOICE OH POOR ONES.
BTW-How long before the Lincoln memorial is taken down......sad Abe was a poor boy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 22:54:30 GMT
Barack Obama 3 hrs · Our politics are divided. They have been for a long time. And while I know that division makes it difficult to listen to Americans with whom we disagree, that’s what we need to do today. I recognize that repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act has become a core tenet of the Republican Party. Still, I hope that our Senators, many of whom I know well, step back and measure what’s really at stake, and consider that the rationale for action, on health care or any other issue, must be something more than simply undoing something that Democrats did. We didn’t fight for the Affordable Care Act for more than a year in the public square for any personal or political gain – we fought for it because we knew it would save lives, prevent financial misery, and ultimately set this country we love on a better, healthier course. Nor did we fight for it alone. Thousands upon thousands of Americans, including Republicans, threw themselves into that collective effort, not for political reasons, but for intensely personal ones – a sick child, a parent lost to cancer, the memory of medical bills that threatened to derail their dreams. And you made a difference. For the first time, more than ninety percent of Americans know the security of health insurance. Health care costs, while still rising, have been rising at the slowest pace in fifty years. Women can’t be charged more for their insurance, young adults can stay on their parents’ plan until they turn 26, contraceptive care and preventive care are now free. Paying more, or being denied insurance altogether due to a preexisting condition – we made that a thing of the past. We did these things together. So many of you made that change possible. At the same time, I was careful to say again and again that while the Affordable Care Act represented a significant step forward for America, it was not perfect, nor could it be the end of our efforts – and that if Republicans could put together a plan that is demonstrably better than the improvements we made to our health care system, that covers as many people at less cost, I would gladly and publicly support it. That remains true. So I still hope that there are enough Republicans in Congress who remember that public service is not about sport or notching a political win, that there’s a reason we all chose to serve in the first place, and that hopefully, it’s to make people’s lives better, not worse. But right now, after eight years, the legislation rushed through the House and the Senate without public hearings or debate would do the opposite. It would raise costs, reduce coverage, roll back protections, and ruin Medicaid as we know it. That’s not my opinion, but rather the conclusion of all objective analyses, from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which found that 23 million Americans would lose insurance, to America’s doctors, nurses, and hospitals on the front lines of our health care system. The Senate bill, unveiled today, is not a health care bill. It’s a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class and poor families to the richest people in America. It hands enormous tax cuts to the rich and to the drug and insurance industries, paid for by cutting health care for everybody else. Those with private insurance will experience higher premiums and higher deductibles, with lower tax credits to help working families cover the costs, even as their plans might no longer cover pregnancy, mental health care, or expensive prescriptions. Discrimination based on pre-existing conditions could become the norm again. Millions of families will lose coverage entirely. Simply put, if there’s a chance you might get sick, get old, or start a family – this bill will do you harm. And small tweaks over the course of the next couple weeks, under the guise of making these bills easier to stomach, cannot change the fundamental meanness at the core of this legislation. I hope our Senators ask themselves – what will happen to the Americans grappling with opioid addiction who suddenly lose their coverage? What will happen to pregnant mothers, children with disabilities, poor adults and seniors who need long-term care once they can no longer count on Medicaid? What will happen if you have a medical emergency when insurance companies are once again allowed to exclude the benefits you need, send you unlimited bills, or set unaffordable deductibles? What impossible choices will working parents be forced to make if their child’s cancer treatment costs them more than their life savings? To put the American people through that pain – while giving billionaires and corporations a massive tax cut in return – that’s tough to fathom. But it’s what’s at stake right now. So it remains my fervent hope that we step back and try to deliver on what the American people need. That might take some time and compromise between Democrats and Republicans. But I believe that’s what people want to see. I believe it would demonstrate the kind of leadership that appeals to Americans across party lines. And I believe that it’s possible – if you are willing to make a difference again. If you’re willing to call your members of Congress. If you are willing to visit their offices. If you are willing to speak out, let them and the country know, in very real terms, what this means for you and your family. After all, this debate has always been about something bigger than politics. It’s about the character of our country – who we are, and who we aspire to be. And that’s always worth fighting for.
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Post by nashville11 on Jun 22, 2017 23:48:19 GMT
It's a "BIGGLY" mess, Pam!
Anne, had to laugh at your post, but in reality Trump has NO clue how the majority of Americans live and the challenges they face. He doesn't know, and he doesn't care. Marie Antoinette was more empathetic.
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