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Post by ricketycricket on May 15, 2021 17:13:44 GMT
I am one month in, on the green plan. I think I gained weight.  I know weight varies, especially with water, but after a month I expected to be down at least 3 or 4 pounds consistently. I think I'm one over my start weight.  Not to be mean, but what I really need, instead of encouragement, is someone to look at my data to identify what Iām doing wrong. I eat when Iām hungry. Iām not starving myself or skipping meals. Not fighting cravings or anything. I log the points. When I need a snack, itās fruit, nuts, egg, popcorn Water is about +/- 70 ounces a day, especially work days. One 4 oz cocktail a week. Exercise, realistically, 4 times a week, which is a 5 mile/20 minute bike ride. Some days I have a few leftover points (some days I'm over). Friend says thatās bad & I should use them all every day. Same goes for bonus points. She says to use them, but I donāt feel like I need to. Friend says to switch to the blue plan, but if the app matched me up with green, why would I? If you want me to post my food diary, Iād be happy to. Thanks for your patience |
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Post by DebDoesWW on May 16, 2021 12:58:54 GMT
ricketycricket welcome! Yes please post your food diary. That is the best way to see what actually is going on. Also your height and how many points you get would be helpful. With the older plans yes I would agree with your friend on making sure you used all of your points. With the new SP (all forms since 12/15) that no longer applies, the calorie to point ratio got thrown out the door with SmartPoints, it is why so many people are maintaining on this program! Also another good way to see what actually is happening is to load up MyFitnessPal (or any other calorie counting app) and to double track for a week to get an idea of how many calories you are actually getting.
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Post by ricketycricket on May 17, 2021 1:47:30 GMT
Hi Deb. How many days do you want? Screenshots, or copy/paste text? I have been using MyFitnessPal for several years. Since starting WW, I tried to do both at the same time, but some days are missing or incomplete.
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Post by DebDoesWW on May 17, 2021 14:52:22 GMT
ricketycricket , on the days you did both just put your points/calories for a few days so I get an idea of where you are coming in. Just a few days worth of journal and just the really average day of things you eat (the main idea is to get an idea of what kind of food you prefer, I hate food labels "junk" " processed" "whole" "clean" etc but with this program it makes a huge difference). The main thing is WW has it in it's head when they removed the Good Health Gudelines, that we would be "nudged" (their word) towards making better choices. š Sorry but if that was true we wouldn't need WW to begin with.š¤£ With this program there is a huge discrepancy between points and calories. If you notice when comparing all the programs Everytime you add in a new "clean" eating list for zero, your points drop down. Example when you go from Green to Blue and add in the lean proteins you go from 30 to 23. Now if chicken, fish and eggs will keep you happy then by all means make the switch. People that are happy with those three things do really well with blue. The main reason I ask people to compare points/calories is if they are eating too much of the "better" choices and ending up eating "within their points" but still not losing. This is especially true with post menopausal, shorter women. They start off at a disadvantage already by needing less calories/points. Okay so a few days of just points/calories And a day or two of your journal, (however you want to post it is fine). I've got to run stock up myself and my parents before the storms hit but I will check back later this afternoon!
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Post by ricketycricket on May 19, 2021 23:09:00 GMT
53, male, 5' 8" 225 lbs
For WW, I get 37 points a day.
For MFP, I have it set to 1500 calories.
Sunday dinner is sort of a cheat meal because we have dinner at my momās and I donāt worry about what it is, but I watch my portions.
No sugar cereal weekday breakfast because itās faster than cooking. I try to have eggs & fruit on weekends.
Weekday lunches are usually a leftover from the previous night.
How do I post images if they're not hosted somewhere?
I also don't see that WW lets you generate a report.
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Post by Kitty on May 20, 2021 7:10:59 GMT
Have you been recording your calories on MFP? If so what does it say you are eating on average.
WW is designed so that you eat your daily points and all of your weekly points, you will lose weight. There are some exceptions which mostly have to do with how people eat. The green plan doesn't have a lot of 0 point foods, but a lot of people initially get in trouble with the fruit. My husband was somewhat similar to you and when SmartPoints came out (what is now green plan) his weight loss stalled for awhile. Why? He was eating 2 or 3 bananas ever day and those extra calories slowed him down.
Be sure and track everything you eat. Of course, some foods are 0 points on WW but you should record everything in MFP to check your claories.
One "cheat" meal in a week can be enough to derail the entire week's progress. Ideally you should track that meal and see if it makes a difference in points, calories.
Are you weighing, measuring food you track. You mention nuts. I love nuts and eat them every day. But, they are high calorie and high points. So they really have to be carefully tracked.
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Post by DebDoesWW on May 20, 2021 16:41:58 GMT
Kitty actually it used to be designed that way all bets are off now with SP for a lot of people. Especially when it comes to the bonus points and your weight loss is stalled, never force yourself to eat those. (There are a few reasons for this besides the way SP is designed. A lot of people don't track every BLT and those add up (creamers, ketchup, etc. etc.) and the main thing is weighing/measuring versus eyeballing/guesstimating, if they say they are full there is a valid reason.) ricketycricket, thank you for the additional information. On the days you did track with MFP what were your calorie totals and then what were your Smart Point totals for that same day. Example 37/1546 38/1634 That way I can get an idea of where you are at (if you are coming in higher or lower than your daily target as compared to calories). Don't worry about posting menu if you don't have a way to host it. I was mainly trying to get an idea of where you fall as to "type" of eating. SometImes you can eat your SP target yet be over your MFP target (setting up the maintenance scenario). Which is why I always suggest doing the comparison for a few days. When you see what is happening you can adjust accordingly. Make sure you track on both sites EVERYTHING for a few days so you know exactly. š
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Post by DebDoesWW on May 20, 2021 17:18:14 GMT
Also here is a link to the old good health guidelines www.weightwatchers.ca/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=4&art_id=35461Just to give you an idea of how to build your menus. Sorry forgot to address the "why would I?" switch question, (this is also why I wanted to see an actual menu of yours). If you enjoy fish, poultry, (we already know you like eggs) the blue may be a good option for you (less measuring!). These are all things that get added in at the different levels. Green level - fruits and vegetables are zero Blue level - F&V plus lean proteins are zero Purple - F&V, lean proteins plus whole grains are zero Feel free to switch and give blue a try (you can do this by clicking on your profile (upper right corner on the app) > gear thingy > food settings > food plan) on the blue setting your "healthy eating zone" will change too. This is another reason why "eating all your points" is no longer applicable, they give you a range now. You will find this under the "WellnessWins" section (click on the package at the bottom). As long as you are getting your blue dot (when you hit your target range for the day) in you are fine. |
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Post by ricketycricket on May 20, 2021 21:05:15 GMT
I do track. In the past, sometimes I missed MFP because itās an extra step and I want to be sure I track WW. Started tracking MFP again.
The biggest problem I have with tracking is the homemade foods. Thereās no barcode to scan and say āI had one serving of thisā. WWās database is not as good as MFPās, at least for me.
So I try to have reasonable portions and pick the closest thing in the database.
The cheat meal isnāt so much a cheat as it is just hard to track.
The nuts, yea I did notice how high they are when I had almonds one day. I typically only have a quarter cup, anyway.
I try to weigh, but again, sometimes the database has certain values and not all of them can be edited. Measuring is easier.
I find pasta particularly difficult to track.
Here is one random day from MFP. I only included the calories column.
After all that, I had 5 points left over.
Breakfast
Publix - Whole Milk, 1 cup 150
Chex - Rice Chex, 27 G 100
Lunch
gala apples - Apple, 154 g 80
Celery Sticks, 4 sticks 30
Fresh Red Seedless Grapes
1/2 cup or approx 15 grapes 60
publix - Baby Carrots, 85 g 35
Homemade - White Rice Pilaf, 0.33 cup 85
Broccoli - Cooked Broccoli, 0.33 Cup 10
Pork - Pork Tenderloin, 2.6 oz 78
Dinner
Ronzoni Angel Hair Pasta
Spaghetti, 1 cup cooked 380
iced tea - iced tea, 8 ounces 70
Homemade - White Clam Sauce, 0.5 cup 240
Snacks
Kettle Corn, 2 cups 113
Driscolls - Strawberries, 0.5 cup 25
Publix - Cranberry Nut Mix, 1/3 cup 210
TOTAL: 1,666
EXERCISES
Cardiovascular
Bicycling, road cycle 323
MFP iOS calorie adjustment 0
TOTALS: 323
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Post by DebDoesWW on May 21, 2021 14:19:35 GMT
ricketycricket this is exactly why I wanted to see your menu. So you still have 5 SPs left (you had 32 for the day) and yet you had 1,666 calories. 1,666/32 =52.06 average calories for your day Now take that and times it by your remaining 5 left (260.03) Add that to 1,666 = 1926.31 total calories IF you would have eaten all of your points (37) for the day. ā- I do have one question on the menu, I donāt see any extras/condiments. Creamer in coffee? Sugar in tea? Donāt forget to count those items too āŗļø The āhealthy eating zoneā is 10 smart points below and 8 above. So your range should be 27-45. Your menu actually looks pretty good, maybe add in a salad with dinner with some Oil & vinegar dressing, try and have more vegetables during the day than fruit. I am guessing it isnāt days like this causing the problem, keep on going , make sure to check out that link to the good health guidelines for some extra tips. I know it is hard to calculate on days you donāt do the cooking. Two options- use a restaurant version for points or if it is something your mom makes a lot, use the ācreate a recipeā option (tap the search bar > my food > recipes > ācreateā top right). As a last resort - guess by deconstructing.
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