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Post by nashville11 on Sept 5, 2017 12:53:57 GMT
We are a group of like-minded people that gather to discuss a host of topics from weight loss, to current events. Our thread celebrates liberal diversity, welcomes new friends, and respects all opinions. We count everything from calories to points but, we never count our chickens before they are hatched.
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Post by nashville11 on Sept 5, 2017 12:55:58 GMT
Good morning! Just getting us started and will be back later. Today is a BIG day here. My mom is coming back to AL from rehab. I'm nervous about it, but hoping for the best. First I have to take my dad to outpatient imaging at the hospital for a follow-up chest x-ray. So it's going to be a busy day here. Woke up this morning to loud thunder and rain. Off to a great start!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 14:50:27 GMT
Joyce, I hope your Mom's transition back to AL goes smoothly. Also, hope your Dad's followup shows he is on the mend. I'm sure he will be so relieved to have your Mom back with him. Send that rain to ND & Montana. We are so dry in ND & Montana is literally burning up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 15:23:53 GMT
Well, no surprise.....The JA in the Oval Office is a HEARTLESS COWARD!...😡
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 15:31:25 GMT
Dan Rather...... There is room in the history books for more than one name. President Donald Trump is who he is. His record indicates he will not change. He has not shown that he will be tempered, normalized, reasoned with, humbled or enlightened. His decision today to end the DACA program is bound for yet another chapter in the reckoning that will come.p The question is for the Republicans in Congress who so far have proven quick to pepper us with tweets of condemnation but reluctant to step up for any meaningful action that will have a real effect on policy (the healthcare vote of a few Senators being the notable exception). Where and how will their names appear when the story is written of this era of extremism? Do they really believe, as a majority of Americans do, that these "dreamers" should be protected? And even if they believe that in their hearts, what will be the courage of their votes which are, after all, the only voice that actually counts? Please spare me the sanctimony and hand wringing. it is of no solace to the millions whose lives will be upended, just like the millions who still fear a collapse of our health care system or the scourge of climate change, the gutting of our economic protections, our public schools, our public health, and so much else. For eight years the GOP on Capitol Hill played a game of winking at the base with meaningless votes for show, knowing full well that they would be spared difficult policy decisions by President Obama's veto pen. So Obamacare was a disgrace that would be easily repealed and replaced. Immigrants could be scapegoated while still keeping our economy and ideals largely intact. The EPA could be denigrated without our air and water quality suffering. And on and on. Now that luxury is gone. And the Republican agenda, or lack thereof, is on display for all to see. In some ways you can hardly blame Mr. Trump. He is just following up on what Republicans in Congress have been saying for years. Whether they really meant it or not, and have any courage to stand up, we shall soon see. History is not only watching Mr. Trump. It is watching his accomplices as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 16:40:36 GMT
He wasn't perfect, but he was compassionate, had common sense, took responsibility for his decisions, right & wrong, and had the respect of other world leaders. I didn't wake up each morning scared to turn the TV on to see how close we were to WWlll & what insane tweets were coming out of the Oval Office.
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Post by nashville11 on Sept 5, 2017 19:45:03 GMT
Love the one above, Linda, about "Welcome to America" feeling like when someone forgets to take down the Christmas tree. What a sad day for America this is. How those young dreamers must feel. The only home they know has turned its back on them. We can only hope that for once Congress will step up to the plate and do what is right, what is part of our American principles, but that will require them stepping out of their obstructionist comfort zone. I'm afraid they don't have the collective backbone to actually do it, even though the majority of Americans want the dreamers to stay. Still Congress has a tendency to listen to the loudest voices, and the loudest voices are most often the rabid few.
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Post by pbnj on Sept 5, 2017 19:58:04 GMT
Can't stop crying...
We need our REAL president so bad. I miss him so much!
Barack Obama (from his Facebook page)
Immigration can be a controversial topic. We all want safe, secure borders and a dynamic economy, and people of goodwill can have legitimate disagreements about how to fix our immigration system so that everybody plays by the rules. But that’s not what the action that the White House took today is about. This is about young people who grew up in America – kids who study in our schools, young adults who are starting careers, patriots who pledge allegiance to our flag. These Dreamers are Americans in their hearts, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper. They were brought to this country by their parents, sometimes even as infants. They may not know a country besides ours. They may not even know a language besides English. They often have no idea they’re undocumented until they apply for a job, or college, or a driver’s license. Over the years, politicians of both parties have worked together to write legislation that would have told these young people – our young people – that if your parents brought you here as a child, if you’ve been here a certain number of years, and if you’re willing to go to college or serve in our military, then you’ll get a chance to stay and earn your citizenship. And for years while I was President, I asked Congress to send me such a bill. That bill never came. And because it made no sense to expel talented, driven, patriotic young people from the only country they know solely because of the actions of their parents, my administration acted to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people, so that they could continue to contribute to our communities and our country. We did so based on the well-established legal principle of prosecutorial discretion, deployed by Democratic and Republican presidents alike, because our immigration enforcement agencies have limited resources, and it makes sense to focus those resources on those who come illegally to this country to do us harm. Deportations of criminals went up. Some 800,000 young people stepped forward, met rigorous requirements, and went through background checks. And America grew stronger as a result. But today, that shadow has been cast over some of our best and brightest young people once again. To target these young people is wrong – because they have done nothing wrong. It is self-defeating – because they want to start new businesses, staff our labs, serve in our military, and otherwise contribute to the country we love. And it is cruel. What if our kid’s science teacher, or our friendly neighbor turns out to be a Dreamer? Where are we supposed to send her? To a country she doesn’t know or remember, with a language she may not even speak? Let’s be clear: the action taken today isn’t required legally. It’s a political decision, and a moral question. Whatever concerns or complaints Americans may have about immigration in general, we shouldn’t threaten the future of this group of young people who are here through no fault of their own, who pose no threat, who are not taking away anything from the rest of us. They are that pitcher on our kid’s softball team, that first responder who helps out his community after a disaster, that cadet in ROTC who wants nothing more than to wear the uniform of the country that gave him a chance. Kicking them out won’t lower the unemployment rate, or lighten anyone’s taxes, or raise anybody’s wages. It is precisely because this action is contrary to our spirit, and to common sense, that business leaders, faith leaders, economists, and Americans of all political stripes called on the administration not to do what it did today. And now that the White House has shifted its responsibility for these young people to Congress, it’s up to Members of Congress to protect these young people and our future. I’m heartened by those who’ve suggested that they should. And I join my voice with the majority of Americans who hope they step up and do it with a sense of moral urgency that matches the urgency these young people feel. Ultimately, this is about basic decency. This is about whether we are a people who kick hopeful young strivers out of America, or whether we treat them the way we’d want our own kids to be treated. It’s about who we are as a people – and who we want to be. What makes us American is not a question of what we look like, or where our names come from, or the way we pray. What makes us American is our fidelity to a set of ideals – that all of us are created equal; that all of us deserve the chance to make of our lives what we will; that all of us share an obligation to stand up, speak out, and secure our most cherished values for the next generation. That’s how America has traveled this far. That’s how, if we keep at it, we will ultimately reach that more perfect union.
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Post by doordie50 on Sept 5, 2017 20:34:25 GMT
nashville11, wishing both your parents the very best @lka5, sorry to hear its so bad there with the smoke and no rain - boy if only you guys had gotten some of last weeks deluge pbnj, thanks for posting O's FB page waves
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Post by pbnj on Sept 5, 2017 20:59:48 GMT
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Post by nashville11 on Sept 5, 2017 23:04:40 GMT
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