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Post by Melody on Mar 29, 2018 5:43:50 GMT
Hi, I have been assuming "fresh" dates were zero points since the new program came out. I have been eating medjool dates. Just read the new points book today and it says they are 7 points for 2! These dates are soft, not hard and dry. So I believe they are fresh. Anyone know anything? Thanks.
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Post by azcristi on Mar 29, 2018 6:07:04 GMT
I'm not positive what "fresh" dates are, but I know dates are crazy high in points and are as sweet as sugar. So not knowing if I've ever seen fresh or dried dates, I couldn't say for sure.
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Post by lavonm on Mar 29, 2018 8:20:10 GMT
None of my stores carry fresh dates. I adore Medjool dates because they're soft & sweet but they're also dried. I assume you're also eating the dried version & need to count points for them.
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Post by neen on Mar 29, 2018 11:45:52 GMT
We had this conversation in a meeting a few weeks ago! Fresh dates are zero points, the dried ones are not. A quick google search says Medjool dates ARE fresh and not dried. Looking in the online tracker, they have points. soooooooo maybe they fall in with, say, the avocado in terms of being a fruit that has points!
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Post by lavonm on Mar 29, 2018 13:36:12 GMT
A quick google search says Medjool dates ARE fresh and not dried. That's interesting. I think you definitely have to go with the tracker & count the points. For me, Medjool dates are just like candy & I can eat quite a few. There's no way I could consider them fresh dates & count zero points. I guess this is one of those areas that if you're losing weight & counting them as zero, then go for it.
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Post by zazzles on Mar 29, 2018 13:53:32 GMT
You can learn more than you probably want to know about dates on Wikipedia: Dates (Fruit)
The section I find interesting is the nutritional information. According to that info, dates are 75% carbohydrates and 63% sugar!
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Post by knuckles491 on Mar 29, 2018 14:03:13 GMT
Of course medjool dates are dried. They are just a bigger, softer version of the regular kind. They are packaged and can be kept on your shelf for a while, and bear no resemblance to the fresh dates that Moses ate from the date palm in the movie "The Ten Commandments".
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Post by borntexan on Mar 29, 2018 14:33:39 GMT
If they come in a box input the NI into the WW calculator.Some of their calculations are off and if I think WW is off I always run it through the WW calculator.
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Post by Jennifer on Mar 29, 2018 14:34:28 GMT
My thought is, if it's in the form that it is right off the tree or bush, it's 0P.
If not.. it has points.
Only my opinion lol
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Post by melody on Mar 29, 2018 15:35:11 GMT
Thanks for all the replies. Will be giving away the dates.
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Post by fullmahina on Mar 29, 2018 15:43:14 GMT
Apparently they are considered a fresh fruit. At about 70 calories each and very full of sugar I think I would hold off considering them a zero-point food although I suppose that technically they would be. www.eatingbirdfood.com/medjool-dates/
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Post by lavonm on Mar 29, 2018 15:49:15 GMT
The section I find interesting is the nutritional information. According to that info, dates are 75% carbohydrates and 63% sugar! That's the reason they're so yummy.
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Post by lavonm on Mar 29, 2018 15:50:47 GMT
Thanks for all the replies. Will be giving away the dates. It seems a shame to give them away. If you have better willpower than me, just have one occasionally for something sweet.
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Post by finreporter on Mar 29, 2018 16:58:04 GMT
Cut them up and put on salad. Then you won't eat that many at once but still get the yumminess of the dates!
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Post by zazzles on Mar 29, 2018 22:04:32 GMT
I don't know if I'm more intrigued or confused by this.
I chatted with WW and got the party line about dates having points because of the amount of sugar they contain and the likelihood of overeating.
But then I dove down into the online program materials, and "Dates, fresh" are listed right on the list of 200 zero-point foods. No exception is noted.
I think WW needs to update their printed/online materials to call out this exception to the "all fresh fruit is zero points" rule.
By the way, fresh figs are zero points. I don't eat either dates or figs, so I have no idea if figs woud make a suitable subsitute snack.
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