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Post by finreporter on Jul 23, 2018 21:10:23 GMT
God forbid anyone be told what to do to help benefit the environment.
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Post by finreporter on Jul 23, 2018 21:12:47 GMT
And even more sad we have to be incentivized to do so. We also wouldn't have 8 hour workdays, mandatory OT pay or time off for new parents with job protections if it weren't for the government getting involved.
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Post by cyndee on Jul 23, 2018 21:26:56 GMT
My doctor does NOT want me to take pseudophedrine. An old pharmacist that knew me and my condition well would not sell it to me if I was buying it for myself. I could buy it at other pharmacies if I didn't mention or lied about my condition, but that would be a sign of abuse, even though pseudophedrine was the most effective medication at relieving my occasional sinusitis discomfort. But there were times I took it not for just sinus pressure, but as a stimulant. That's only marginally better than a person using Adderall that wasn't prescribed for them. I hate "nanny" laws. I didn't use to have an opinion, let along a strong opinion. But between Federalk State, and Local laws to prohibit this and prohibit that government has become terribly invasive in daily lives. I got bitten by the particular law you refer to. It was when my father was living with me and I was his caregiver. My life was already hell because he needed to be in an assisted living facility and there was no money to put him into one, so I had to turn my house and my life into assisted living. So things were stressful, chaotic, and life was a real bummer. One day his doctir prescribed one of those allergy pills—it think it was twice a day; I went to the pharmacy and found out that I could only get what for dad was a one-week supply and that I had to go back to the pharmacy every week. Like I needed one more think to add to my burden. - zazzles, I agree that having to go to the pharmacy every week would be horrible. As a person who takes a number of pills and has in her 30s and 40s, I can say that the hassle of pharmacies and frequent trips (I've had to go once or even twice per week) can be distressing. Luckily things have eased for me a little as my med quantities have been reduced and I use mail order pharmacy for some. I will say that I am at least happy that I currently have reasonably decent insurance coverage for pharmaceuticals. Not all people in the US do, and it may actually get even harder for some (perhaps even me) in the future. I fear for people with pre-existing conditions, like myself. Locally through various California jurisdictions plastic grocery bags have been banned unless they are heavy-duty, reusable ones. And the law requires people to pay for them at the store; retailers can't give them away and eat the cost, they have to charge for them. And the fee stays with the retailer, it does not go to a government program. Other laws require us to divide garbage from recyclable glass, plastic and metal; however, recyclable styrofoam is NOT permitted in our recycling containers in my city. Yard clippings go into their own containers. And now they are replacing garbage cans with a two-section bin amd expect people to put food waste (i.e., thrown-away food) in a container separate from other household garbage. So you can see the issue you mention hits a nerve with me, because both of my parents as well as all of my aunts, uncles and grandparents are long dead and I do NOT need the government stepping to tell me how to live my daily life. - zazzles, I can't say for all of Europe, but I know that in some European countries, like Czech Republic, plastic grocery bags are also not free. They don't complain in Czech Republic, because they never received free bags in the first place. In my state of NJ, they are free, but many residents regularly use reusable bags. I do, and like the idea very much. Honestly, the plastic or paper bags our grocery stores give in NJ are becoming flimsier and flimsier and smaller and smaller. Often times you can barely get the bags full of stuff to your house without them breaking. Sometimes they double bag, and if you have a large purchase, it could equal 12-20 bags. Scary! My reusable canvas bags can hold huge amounts of weight (Go Trader Joes!) and they are much bigger than the freebies. They can be laundered and are ultimately better for the environment. I think that people should be environmentally conscious. The results of lack of environmental consciousness are very very ugly and disturbing. We only have one world, unless we start shooting all of the trash into space, which would indeed cost a lot of money. We already dump huge quantities into our oceans, as well as dump sites, some poisons. These are not only eye-sores, but horrible for animals and plant life. Animals and plant life are not allowed to vote. We have to represent their interests. Unfortunately, more people tend to be lazy and without care for others/other things, than with care. It's true that it sucks when we must be told to do right by our environment and fellow living creatures. We should already be doing right by them on our own. This topic isn't altogether different than the lack of care and disrespect that drivers show each other on the road. And I too hate when people driving think their time is so much more important than anyone else's. Gee, Fin, almost everybody I encounter on California roads thinks they are more important than anyone else. The rare exceptions are the ones I call Rickshaw drivers—those who drive so far under the speed limit on local streets that the could walk faster, but who insist on not using the right-most lanes.
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Post by cyndee on Jul 23, 2018 21:34:03 GMT
I do agree that I'd be turned off if a Weight Watcher meeting leader pushed breathing techniques (or meditation) on me. Both have actually been quite triggering for me in the past at times. Perhaps learning about it once could be helpful to some, but doing it each week would be too much, in my opinion. However, I do think learning about mindfulness is helpful to everyone and has a place in learning how to take some level of control in one's eating. Mindfulness is something we practice for ourselves. Being taught about it need only happen once every blue moon.
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Post by wildcat on Jul 23, 2018 21:42:56 GMT
I would a million times rather have someone driving too fast than too slow. But in my experience everyone thinks they are a great driver and that it's everyone else who is terrible.
The government basically has to step in when it comes to things like the environment, because I think the majority of people are selfish and don't care what happens to the earth because a lot of them will be dead before they see the results. And I think an awful lot of people are like "hey government, don't tell me what to do - but be sure to pass laws so that my neighbors can't play loud music at 1AM, and don't let those noisy teenagers loiter in front of my house, and don't let people shoot targets in their backyard next door because they might shoot me by accident, and make food manufacturers show added sugar on their labels, and don't let people burn trash because it might cause a fire and burn my house down - in other words, regulate the stuff that is in my best interest, but don't regulate me."
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Post by wildcat on Jul 23, 2018 21:48:16 GMT
I actually use a guided meditation app called Breathe and it's awesome. I don't know if that's the kind of app that WW is partnering with but that sounds great to me - not that it should be forced on anyone of course, but it sounds like a good fit with WW if they are working toward overall wellness and not just weight loss.
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Post by linda72 on Jul 23, 2018 22:02:41 GMT
Austin and some other TX cities no longer have to use reusable bags. Becky, Austin seems to be the only city that has that rule so far. Did you see this: "The Austin Fire Department says firefighters were called to a chip factory two times after the spontaneous combustion of tortilla chips." Now, I believe those chips might have too much seasoning on them!
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Post by finreporter on Jul 23, 2018 22:11:01 GMT
I would a million times rather have someone driving too fast than too slow. But in my experience everyone thinks they are a great driver and that it's everyone else who is terrible. The government basically has to step in when it comes to things like the environment, because I think the majority of people are selfish and don't care what happens to the earth because a lot of them will be dead before they see the results. And I think an awful lot of people are like "hey government, don't tell me what to do - but be sure to pass laws so that my neighbors can't play loud music at 1AM, and don't let those noisy teenagers loiter in front of my house, and don't let people shoot targets in their backyard next door because they might shoot me by accident, and make food manufacturers show added sugar on their labels, and don't let people burn trash because it might cause a fire and burn my house down - in other words, regulate the stuff that is in my best interest, but don't regulate me." And Bingo was his name-o.
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Post by borntexan on Jul 24, 2018 0:44:03 GMT
Austin and some other TX cities no longer have to use reusable bags. Becky, Austin seems to be the only city that has that rule so far. Did you see this: "The Austin Fire Department says firefighters were called to a chip factory two times after the spontaneous combustion of tortilla chips." Now, I believe those chips might have too much seasoning on them! I think Beaumont was the city that took the law to the Supreme Court.I did see on the news about the tortilla chip factory but I didn't know they were called out a second time.I agree there might be a little too much seasoning on them although in our house there seems to be no such a thing as too much seasoning.
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Post by alias123 on Jul 24, 2018 2:10:26 GMT
Locally through various California jurisdictions plastic grocery bags have been banned unless they are heavy-duty, reusable ones. And the law requires people to pay for them at the store; retailers can't give them away and eat the cost, they have to charge for them. And the fee stays with the retailer, it does not go to a government program. Other laws require us to divide garbage from recyclable glass, plastic and metal; however, recyclable styrofoam is NOT permitted in our recycling containers in my city. Yard clippings go into their own containers. And now they are replacing garbage cans with a two-section bin amd expect people to put food waste (i.e., thrown-away food) in a container separate from other household garbage. Zazzles, in NYC they keep wanting to pass the plastic bag in stores charge. So far they haven't passed it. NYC is different in one regard from other cities. We are a walking city. Often you stop in stores unplanned and shop. So unless you carry a bag with you all the time, you are going to be dinged with a fee. Also many NYC people use those bags as their garbage bags. So if they pass the law you will have to buy garbage bags. Dinged again and still using plastic. I do keep a reusable bag in my gym bag for when I shop at TJ's which is a probably 4-5 days a week. We recycle all the things you mentioned. Plastic, glass, bottles, metal, paper. No Styrofoam. In my kitchen I have 4 containers: One container for paper, one for regular garbage, one for plastic, glass and metal, and finally one for food. I live in a tiny apartment so this can be take up a lot of space that I don't have to spare. So far the food waste is optional. This past year they gave out new containers for that. One small one for your kitchen and one for the street. Leaves/grass can go in the food waste container. However, other yard waste like branches must be separated and tied up. I think that is due to a bug...beetle bug? that was harming trees. So this is to stop the spread of it or something. I have to say I am usually quite good with recycling. If you don't do it or do it incorrectly the home owner is ticketed. One problem is people go through your garbage to get the bottles to recycle, they mix up your garbage and you get ticketed. The one thing that REALLY annoys me is that sanitation no longer picks up electronics. You need to bring them to a recycling center. (only a few and not close by) Many people, including me, do not drive. So I need to take car service for many $20 or more one way to drop off a TV or computer ? Crazy. What is happening is people just illegally dump these things near train stations etc or break up the electronics and put them in thick black plastic bags and hope the sanitation doesn't realize what is in the bag. They really need to rethink this. Maybe do a pick up for electronics once a month.
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Post by alias123 on Jul 24, 2018 2:23:49 GMT
I actually use a guided meditation app called Breathe and it's awesome. I don't know if that's the kind of app that WW is partnering with but that sounds great to me - not that it should be forced on anyone of course, but it sounds like a good fit with WW if they are working toward overall wellness and not just weight loss. Another excellent Free app is: Insight TimerIt has about 10,000 different meditations and also music.
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Post by zazzles on Jul 24, 2018 4:39:53 GMT
I actually use a guided meditation app called Breathe and it's awesome. I don't know if that's the kind of app that WW is partnering with but that sounds great to me - not that it should be forced on anyone of course, but it sounds like a good fit with WW if they are working toward overall wellness and not just weight loss. Another excellent Free app is: Insight TimerIt has about 10,000 different meditations and also music. & wildcatI wish I'd paid more attention, but I know the app mentioned wasn't about breathing. It had a name that distinctly sound like psychological guidance. I guess more will be revealed as weeks go on. Maybe it's all related to—dare I say it—program changes in December. ***Shudder***
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Post by wildcat on Jul 24, 2018 12:22:32 GMT
lso many NYC people use those bags as their garbage bags. This is the one reason that I sometimes get plastic bags at the grocery store - I use them when I clean out the litter box, or sometimes if I have something smelly like raw meat that I don't want to put in the inside garbage can so I will put it in a plastic grocery bag. I'm not sure what alternative there is to plastic for those things. This reminds me of one time years ago that I was at the mall. I bought something at Macy's and they gave me a big bag. I then bought something at JC Penney and when she rung it up I said, oh you can just put it in the bag I already have. The cashier refused to do it - she said she wouldn't put their stuff in a Macy's bag. So I let her do it and then standing there I took it out of the JC Penney bag, put it in my Macy's bag and laid her bag back on the counter. Of course she was so insistent on wasting it, she probably threw it away after I left!
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Post by finreporter on Jul 24, 2018 17:28:24 GMT
WC, that's so stupid and wasteful of her! I am frequently asked if I even need a bag when shopping at mall stores. A good chunk of the time I don't because I carry a large canvas grocery tote as my "mom purse" so I say no thanks to a bag and just throw it in my big tote. Or same as you if I have a big bag from one store I'll decline the bags at other stores to stuff it all in one bag.
We have had the pay for paper or heavy plastic grocery bags for years now and though at first I missed reusing the flimsy plastic bags for small trash bin liners I just buy a roll of garbage bags. Not very green of me but I'm not sure what else to do. All of my recycling gets sorted into the paper grocery bags but I don't often have those bags either because I bring the reusable grocery totes to bag my groceries.
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Post by mom2casey on Jul 24, 2018 17:52:03 GMT
car driving 30 in a 45 zone this am... really??? !!!!!! ok moving on.....................
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