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Post by fullmahina on Mar 21, 2019 12:59:12 GMT
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Post by DotRen on Mar 21, 2019 13:33:37 GMT
We used to use roundup grass and weed killer along our fence line because our neighbor complained about the grass on HIS side of the fence. It worked, but after reading about the long term effects of it leeching into the ground water and soil, we stopped using it.
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Post by fullmahina on Mar 21, 2019 14:21:57 GMT
DotRen, many years ago we used it to but really, who knew?? What amazes me is how the US uses so many pesticides and herbicides that so much of the rest of the world has banned. Money talks, I guess.
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Post by cyndee on Mar 21, 2019 14:54:16 GMT
Many of these pesticides hurt more than just people. It hurts other living things, as well. Too often people only care if it hurts them. But I bet most know that hurting other living things hurts us in the end. True, it's still allowed in the US because of $$$ Money too often rules.
I try to buy organic when I can, but it is hard when the same box of regular strawberries is $1.99 and organic is $4.99. That's fine if you have the money, but harder if you don't. The cost of organic would surely still be high if everything had to be organic, but I'm assuming it would be lower if considered the norm and not a luxury item. The same meds in the US that seem like luxury items are not so much in other countries where the costs are better negotiated.
I have only enough land for an herb garden. My dad used to garden, but he's decreased his garden size over the years.
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Post by neen on Mar 21, 2019 15:35:49 GMT
Organic does not equal pesticide free. While the pesticides used are not synthetic made (like round up) and are "natural" chemicals, they can still be carcinogenic.
The best advice is to grow your own so you know what is on your food (if you have the time and space) and if you do buy any kind of produce in the store WASH IT!
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Post by fullmahina on Mar 21, 2019 16:35:13 GMT
Organic does not equal pesticide free. True, but I think I would rather go with organic than full-on heavy-duty-pesticide-treated produce. Growing your own is the way to go and yes, wash that store produce, whether it is organic or not!
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Post by susiq25679 on Mar 21, 2019 17:38:52 GMT
Have any of you read Silent Spring by Rachel Carson? The banning of DDT was largely because of that book. I'm not sure in today's world it's possible to truly grown something that is completely pesticide free, natural or chemical after all the years we have abused this planet.
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Post by jamescat1 on Mar 21, 2019 22:37:39 GMT
We use Neem oil which is totally organic. We grow many of our own vegetables but it is impossible to grow everything. Even in Michael Pollan’s “perfect world” lettuce only grows here in the spring and fall. The summer is too hot so we have summer salads with tomatoes and cucumbers. Also it is unrealistic to think those in apartments in urban areas can grow their own food. I know from growers that two fields can bevside by side. One is certified organic and the other is not because it requires a lot of paperwork and inspections to be certified organic and is not always profitable for the farmer.
Roundup is for getting rid of invasive grasses and weeds that respond to no other products. It has no place near vegetables or food you eat.
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