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Post by linda72 on Jan 4, 2017 15:04:17 GMT
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Post by neen on Jan 4, 2017 16:06:37 GMT
That was a good post! My carb trigger is potatoes! I can't get enough of them!
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Post by lmenglish on Jan 4, 2017 16:35:03 GMT
Great explanation! thanks for sharing , Linda, and I did like her on FB
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Post by cherryt38 on Jan 4, 2017 16:58:18 GMT
Both the articles were good, and informing. I guess I'm kind of in the middle of carb cravings. Some I can take it or leave it, others make me want and sometimes take more, but I can call a halt to it fairly quickly. It's not so much the breads, pasta, or potatoes that I have a potential problem with, it's the salty crunchy carbs like Doritos and snack stuff or certain sweets.
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Post by sullicat1 on Jan 4, 2017 18:17:47 GMT
Thanks for the article Linda. Sometimes I get so discouraged because from my childhood (& I was a skinny little twerp) pasta, or,spaghetti as we called it, was my favorite food & still is. But it is such a trigger for me. If I thought I could just eat a cup with my homemade marinara, I would have it for dinner every night. I might even stop eating meat. But a cup just doesn't cut it for me. I need to remember I can eat what I want, just not as much.
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Post by Kitty on Jan 4, 2017 18:25:51 GMT
I have mixed feelings about Dr. Berkeley's writings. I have actually read almost her entire blog and I own her book. There is a lot that she says that I agree with and I find her writings on maintenance very important. I think that one of the neglected areas of weight loss writing is maintenance.
As to whether she is harsh or strict often depends on what you read of hers. She is more on the less harsh, strict end in this article. And, she is like that in her book. I personally lost a great deal of my weight essentially following what she talks about here -- I ate about 1200 calories a day and I averaged about 100 carbs a day.
At the same time, some of her writings are less moderate. One of her rules is to be tough and not moderate. I recall reading something where she said the book publisher wanted her to have rules and implied that the publisher wanted her to be more strict and not leave in wiggle room.
One of the issues that I have with her is that she often seems to have the opinion that there is one answer for everyone and that answer is eating lower carb. As mentioned I do eat lower carb than most people. I do this because some carbs tend to raise my blood sugar higher than I would like (I am not diabetic, but I do have some insulin resistance). But, I think some of the recent research has questioned pretty severely the insulin theory of obesity and I am not persuaded that obesity results from carbs per se. That said, I do think that it is healthier to avoid added sugar. I think this is a complex issue and often Dr. Berkeley doesn't seem to look at it from a complex standpoint and doesn't really address some of the newer research. I sometimes think she falls within the trap of thinking that what works for her works for everyone. Again, I'm not against eating lower carb and do so myself.
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Post by cyndee on Jan 4, 2017 19:35:21 GMT
Carbs are an issue for me. Not so much sugar in recent years, but starchy stuff of all sorts. It was maybe about 8 years ago that my doctor told me my triglycerides were very high. He said I had to lower my carbs. At the time I was very overweight. Maybe 30 lbs more than I am now. My cholesterol and glucose levels were high too. I had been successful on Weight Watchers a few times years before, but remember being on the Core Plan, which frankly, was pretty high in carbs, even though the carbs were whole grains for the most part. I didn't even know how to diet low carb, so I got a referral to a dietitian.
My low carb diet that I was prescribed was low, but not nearly as low as diets like Atkins diet or certainly not the Ketogenic diet. I did manage to mostly keep within my new carb range, but it was hard. I can't even imagine ME managing with Atkins. I just love my carbs too much.
I ended up losing over 30 lbs on my prescribed low carb diet in about 6 months. It was work, but I lost the weight at a fairly fast rate of between 1.5-2.5 lbs per week. Then I went back for blood tests and ALL of them were perfectly normal!!!!! My doctor himself called me to congratulate me and sounded so happy and shocked that I actually took his advice.
Years past and I fell off the low carb wagon. Somehow I managed not to regain that much of the weight. In fact, at one point (not really officially on a diet) I got back to my low. But I went to the doctor and SURPRISE!!!! My triglycerides and cholesterol were high again (although my glucose level was fine). Even though I was fairly trim. So in my case my weight didn't determine my blood test results.
In the recent 1-2 years I have gained a little weight back. I gained about 18 lbs. I decided to try Weight Watchers again, and lost 13 lbs. Sounds good? But still my cholesterol and triglycerides were high. My doctor told me I must lower my carbs again. On Weight Watchers I'll admit that though I was staying within my daily points, a lot of the points were high carb foods. Not that that HAS to be the case, but it seems to be the case when I do Weight Watchers. So I guess I must go back low carb again. Actually, for a couple of weeks I tried to count both my carbs and WW points, but that was a hassle. How much hassle can I handle? Again, I'll follow the prescribed not severely low carb diet of 60 grams of carbs per day. I know it will be a sacrifice. Do I think I'll be able to stay low carb the rest of my life? Me? Probably I'll fall off the wagon now and then. Sorry to admit that, but it's probably true. But I'll try again and again.
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Post by ksbruns on Jan 4, 2017 20:18:42 GMT
Nice post @kittylessofabetter me. I agree very much with your thoughts on Dr. Berkeley....I think that's why I quit reading her a year or so ago, I felt very wrong in my choices. I tried so hard to give up sugar, carbs, etc and could never do it for the long haul and it always led to binging, so I became an All Things in Moderation (ATIM) girl. I absolutely had to grit my teeth and learn what I could and could not have in the house, and be willing to stop at whatever one *serving* was so that I could keep it in my life. It definitely took a couple of years in maintenance, with a lot of toe-stubbing, but I don't regret it at times like the holidays when it's easy to fall in the pitfall of "I will never have another chance to eat this again in my entire life." I did think linda72's article yesterday was good, but I didn't think it was representative of her usual hard core line.
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Post by pbnj on Jan 4, 2017 22:42:16 GMT
ksbruns LOL "I will never have another chance to eat this again in my entire life." but, but, but...!!! This week is my birthday and I WILL have that piece of ice cream cake !!
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Post by ksbruns on Jan 4, 2017 23:34:22 GMT
LOL! pbnj You saw me diving into that piece of mine! I'm just glad I wouldn't let DDIL give me more that a couple of slices to take home.
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Post by ladymajky on Jan 5, 2017 1:51:21 GMT
Actually, for a couple of weeks I tried to count both my carbs and WW points, but that was a hassle. How much hassle can I handle? Again, I'll follow the prescribed not severely low carb diet of 60 grams of carbs per day. At the same time that I started my most recent WLJ, my DH was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. His doctor and his diabetes nurse told him that if he could keep below 180 carbs per day and lose weight he would not have to start on diabetes meds. I put together an excel spreadsheet that allows me to track both carbs and points for what we eat. He lost his weight, and never started the meds although he continues to monitor his blood glucose daily. Using the spreadsheet I have been tracking both carbs and WW points for six years now. We generally eat 140-160 carbs a day. It requires menu-preplanning to make it work. Sometimes I have to juggle the planned meals around to meet the carb target, but it's no more difficult than juggling points around to meet the points target. I like that the eTools tracker includes the nutrition info along with the points value for almost everything, so when I look up points, I can get carb info at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 2:04:08 GMT
I have started tracking on MFP again in addition to tracking points.I used to be diabetic type 2 and was never told of the danger of certain kinds of carbs by either of my doctors.Even though I am no longer diabetic I try to stay under 70 carbs a day or around 40-42 net carbs while trying to get enough fiber to combat my IBS.It takes some doing but I have found I feel better when I don't eat so many carbs.
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Post by linda72 on Jan 5, 2017 2:13:25 GMT
ladymajky @beckyw2016 Why is there such a difference between the number of carbs you eat a day? 140-160 vs 70 carbs a day is a big difference. I know nothing about diabetic carb counting. Please forgive me if this is too personal a question. I would think it's very hard to stay at 70 carbs a day. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 2:20:12 GMT
I went back and re-read her 2nd article and I agree with it.I am one of those who can stop with one cookie or one tortilla and still lose.For my carb intake I try to pick the ones that also have a lot of fiber which helps my carb net intake. Thanks linda72 for posting both links.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 2:27:32 GMT
linda72 ,zazzles could prob answer this better than I can.Men are allowed more carbs I guess for the same reason they are allowed more calories or points.The rule of thumb I believe in cases of diabetics is to try to stay under 30 grams of carbs for each meal and 15 grams of carbs for snacks.I used to have as many as 50% of my calories in carbs but after I found how much they hurt my blood sugar and with the help of my Curves coach who is still diabetic told me that she can still lose at 70 carbs a day and still lose.I realize everyone is different but I do what works for me with still needing the fiber for my IBS.
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