Kitty
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Post by Kitty on Mar 10, 2019 23:41:05 GMT
zazzles, Oh, I agree. Most people do want simplicity. Of course, I think there are two very simple plans. One is something like Simply Filling since it has little tracking and a restricted food list. The problem with Simply Filling for many, though, (such as me) was that it was too restrictive and wasn't that compatible with people who needed/wanted to eat out much. The other simple plan which doesn't have the restrictive problem is, well, calorie counting. You count your calories to your limit and you are done. You can make part of it weekly (call that weekly calories) with a daily calorie minimum and you are done. Essentially some of the points plan were glorified versions of this. WW has been moving farther and farther away from this. I have to feel that a big part of that is just competitive driven. That is, WW markets itself as having the "best" weight loss plan. Well, there is nothing special about calorie counting. Everyone does it. I personally think that the least important part of weight loss is the specific weight loss plan. You can lose weight on points or exchanges or low carb or counting calories, etc. Where I think WW has shined (in the past) was on teaching the behavioral aspects of weight loss. I think they can do that without a unique plan. But -- I think that WW thinks that people expect a unique plan (and they may be right) so they have to provide one....
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Post by zazzles on Mar 11, 2019 1:16:12 GMT
squid, LOL at the navel comment. I’m guessing your job doesn’t involve belly dancing! I find, more and more, that I am driven to shopping on Amazon whether I want to or not. With so many stores on the verge of closing, you’d think they would do things to court customers instead of driving them to online shopping.
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Post by finreporter on Mar 11, 2019 1:48:37 GMT
Oh, you’re so right. I see this all the time. There’s plenty of cash to spend but there’s seldom anything age-appropriate for boomers to spend it on. I see this all the time in clothing stores. I go in prepared to spend a couple of hundred dollars, and walk out with nothing. I have the money, they don't carry the merchandise older shoppers are interested in. Roz P.S. I'm not allowed to expose my navel at work. You must not be shopping at Chicos. Isn't that the quintessential baby boomer clothing store with its safari mixed prints and gigantic jewelry?
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Post by finreporter on Mar 11, 2019 1:57:10 GMT
And regarding millennials, all the ones I know have money. So WW isn't totally off the mark trying to capture that market. An early thirty something is not exactly a high school kid trying to scrounge up spare change. They're most likely a professional 10 years into their career. I'm pretty sure that is who WW is going for.
And I think that article was so spot on. I've mentioned before that if they don't shit or get off the pot that they may as well have just owned their old school awkwardness. Old fashioned stuff always comes back in style and like granny panties, scrunchies and wine, younger generations would have wanted to try it. It's so uncool it becomes cool again. That kind of thing.
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Post by itsrad on Mar 11, 2019 2:00:12 GMT
You must not be shopping at Chicos. Isn't that the quintessential baby boomer clothing store with its safari mixed prints and gigantic jewelry? Could you possibly be more condescending?
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Post by finreporter on Mar 11, 2019 4:46:21 GMT
She said clothing stores aren't catering to baby boomers. I'm pointing out one that is well known for doing just that.
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Post by fullmahina on Mar 11, 2019 12:42:02 GMT
Actually, the gap between the incomes of millenials and baby boomers is quite real. Baby boomers DO make more money than millenials. Perhaps that will change as more boomers retire but for now, it's true. Here's how the difference stacks up, state by state: www.businessinsider.com/baby-boomer-millennial-income-in-every-state-us-2018-7That being said, I'm not sure Mindy Grossman (age 61, btw) is doing WW any favors by tossing aside the older members in hopes of attracting younger ones. I can understand her not catering ONLY to people who may be dying off in thirty or forty years but she has to get through the next quarter without swirling down the drain.
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Post by diva49 on Mar 11, 2019 12:44:48 GMT
Millennials will age. What then?
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squid
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Post by squid on Mar 11, 2019 13:38:08 GMT
Another factor that comes into play is that Boomers' parents were the generation that benefited from the post-WWII economic boom. As a result, there's been a huge wealth transfer as the Boomers' parents have died and left their estates to their Boomer children. So it's just not an income issue. Some Boomers may not have a big incomes in retirement, but may be sitting on thousands or millions of inherited money. I'm ignoring the Chico's comment, although I do shop there on occasion. Roz
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Post by DotRen on Mar 11, 2019 13:41:24 GMT
*sits in the corner because I love safari prints*
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Post by fullmahina on Mar 11, 2019 14:40:36 GMT
Millennials will age. What then? Soylent Green?
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Post by DebDoesWW on Mar 11, 2019 14:47:33 GMT
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Post by fullmahina on Mar 11, 2019 14:57:22 GMT
Another factor that comes into play is that Boomers' parents were the generation that benefited from the post-WWII economic boom. As a result, there's been a huge wealth transfer as the Boomers' parents have died and left their estates to their Boomer children. So it's just not an income issue. Some Boomers may not have a big incomes in retirement, but may be sitting on thousands or millions of inherited money. Yes, and that will be passed on by the Boomers to their kids. Personally, I inherited nothing from my parents but my kids (Gen X'ers) will stand to get whatever we have left when we pass out of this world. The ol' circle of life. So much is anecdotal---there are members of all generations who are doing quite well and there are members of all generations who are in trouble financially. But as a group, Boomers generally have higher incomes. It's simply a fact. There are many factors that come into play as far as disposable income is concerned. Boomers are often done with mortgages, raising kids (daycare to college costs), and making huge purchases. The pool is in, the cars are paid for. Life may not be the struggle that it once was, financially. We charge things for convenience, not necessarily because we don't have the cash to pay for it all at once. Those in younger generational groups often have crushing debt now and more crushing debt yet to come. Back to WW. Younger demographic groups, faced with high daily living financial obligations, might not see much value in what WW is offering for the price. Not much bang for the buck, considering what might be available for zero to little cost online from other sources. I think Mindy is out of touch with pretty much everything as far as her vision for WW/Weight Watchers goes. Casting the older group aside, trying desperately to be part of the Popular Girls group. The whole WW thing strikes me as desperate and sad.
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Post by fullmahina on Mar 11, 2019 15:01:59 GMT
One of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes!!!
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Post by lavonm on Mar 11, 2019 15:09:14 GMT
*sits in the corner because I love safari prints* LOL I'll join you in the corner. I love them as well although I don't shop at Chico's or wear gigantic jewelry.
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