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Post by luanne on Mar 30, 2019 21:54:35 GMT
nashville11 , oh the vast majority here in Cali are Democratic, but the more rural areas lean the other way. But even some of those areas are starting to turn.
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Post by nashville11 on Mar 31, 2019 15:22:23 GMT
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Post by lani on Mar 31, 2019 15:35:06 GMT
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Post by nashville11 on Mar 31, 2019 15:41:15 GMT
We already knew that Uncle Joe had some baggage. I'm wondering how big a problem the Lucy Flores accusation may be for him, and if others will come out now that she has made a statement. If so, that could be very damaging. I hope he is the guy we've all seen and felt we knew for many years. He seems like a genuinely nice guy. Being kissed on the back of the head doesn't sound so awful to me, but maybe there's more to it? I hope not. Whatever, Biden better deal with this head-on, and not let it drag out and fester if he has any hope of winning. It's surprising that the accusation is being made by a Democrat politician or former politician.
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Post by nashville11 on Mar 31, 2019 15:45:53 GMT
It's enough to make you want to cry . . .
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Post by nashville11 on Mar 31, 2019 17:46:44 GMT
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Post by luanne on Mar 31, 2019 18:33:33 GMT
We already knew that Uncle Joe had some baggage. I'm wondering how big a problem the Lucy Flores accusation may be for him, and if others will come out now that she has made a statement. If so, that could be very damaging. I hope he is the guy we've all seen and felt we knew for many years. He seems like a genuinely nice guy. Being kissed on the back of the head doesn't sound so awful to me, but maybe there's more to it? I hope not. Whatever, Biden better deal with this head-on, and not let it drag out and fester if he has any hope of winning. It's surprising that the accusation is being made by a Democrat politician or former politician. The response I saw from him said he didn't remember the incident.
I went to a lecture right after Trump was elected given by a professor of political science. Her talk was mostly about how we got where we are now. The issue of Trump's past bad acts with women was brought up and the professor mentioned how people really don't care about that. If you look back in history there are a LOT of our past presidents who had affairs, inappropriate relationships, etc. Maybe the #metoo movement is causing people to pay more attention.
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Post by nashville11 on Mar 31, 2019 19:14:49 GMT
luanne , it's all gotten really confusing, hasn't it? There are good and bad things I suppose about every movement, and sometimes it's hard to weed out what's bad and not pull out the good. Women have been dealing with sexual harassment since time began, and it is long past time that we all took a stand against it. At the same time, sometimes it's hard to know was it sexual harassment or wasn't it? Clearly Bill Clinton was very, very wrong, but honestly I would not call what he did sexual harassment as Monica was an adult even though young and a willing participant who according to her own account started the ball rolling by flashing her underwear at him. I mean who flashes their underwear at the President of the United States even if you are a 20-something year old intern? And as far as I know she never said she did not fully and willingly participate. I personally think Bill Clinton did a good job as President, yet I don't condone anything he did with any other women. I don't know what happened in the Flores incident. From the little I have gleaned, I don't think I would have considered myself sexually harassed but I wasn't there, so I don't know. When it comes to Trump, IMO he condemned himself as a sexual predator and sleaze bag with his own words. With Clarence Thomas, Joe Biden didn't handle the Anita Hill testimony at the hearing the way I believe it should have been handled; yet, it was a different time and hopefully we've all learned and evolved since that time. With Kavanaugh, the only thing we really had to go on was the public testimony of the two people directly involved. In listening to that testimony, I believed Dr. Blasey Ford came across as the most credible. I thought Kavanaugh was arrogant and self-serving, and frankly he offered nothing to make me believe him. Sometimes it's hard, maybe even impossible, to know what is right. But unless a lot more documented evidence appears about Biden, I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe as I always have that while he's flawed like every other human being, at heart he is a good man who has served his country well. Figuring out life used to be much easier, didn't it?
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Post by hallian on Apr 1, 2019 16:20:37 GMT
We already knew that Uncle Joe had some baggage. I'm wondering how big a problem the Lucy Flores accusation may be for him, and if others will come out now that she has made a statement. If so, that could be very damaging. I hope he is the guy we've all seen and felt we knew for many years. He seems like a genuinely nice guy. Being kissed on the back of the head doesn't sound so awful to me, but maybe there's more to it? I hope not. Whatever, Biden better deal with this head-on, and not let it drag out and fester if he has any hope of winning. It's surprising that the accusation is being made by a Democrat politician or former politician. Flores is a Bernie Sanders supporter. She knows Biden can beat Sanders in a primary. It's a ridiculous accusation in my opinion. I see Biden as one of those guys that is just a hugger and a head kisser. George W. gave the German Prime Minister a neck massage for heaven's sake. That's more intimate that a peck on the back of the head.
Democrats need to stop apologizing. This country voted an admitted "p^ss*-grabber" into office. I'm sick of Democrats eating their own. Gillibrand did it to Al Franken.
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Post by birdgal on Apr 2, 2019 3:38:15 GMT
Well said! Dems do need to stop being sorry and start sticking together like the rep/cons do.
We aren't perfect. Who is? Don't let our enemy define us or drag us down to their level. We are better than that. Better than them.
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Post by DotRen on Apr 2, 2019 13:23:35 GMT
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Post by hallian on Apr 2, 2019 15:02:12 GMT
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Post by lani on Apr 2, 2019 16:08:47 GMT
Democrats throwing each other under the bus just does DT's work for him. I get the impulse, but please! Eye on the prize.
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Post by birdgal on Apr 2, 2019 16:48:03 GMT
Exactly!
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