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Post by fullmahina on Mar 30, 2019 23:28:18 GMT
How do you achieve Lifetime status if there is no goal weight assigned to you by WW?
I noticed when I rejoined and went to a meeting that there was no goal weight entered in the booklet in which my weight was recorded, nor could I find a place where it would be recorded. Maybe I missed it?
So...do you simply pick a goal and go for it? If so, I think I will pick one that is five pounds less than I am now, hit that goal, get my LT designation, and never pay for WW again.
Yes, that sounds silly and of course I am kidding. To me, not assigning a goal weight sounds like a way to let LT slip away without a whimper. Grandfather in those who presently have the status but this would be the end of anyone new achieving LT.
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Post by zazzles on Mar 31, 2019 1:44:40 GMT
How do you achieve Lifetime status if there is no goal weight assigned to you by WW? I noticed when I rejoined and went to a meeting that there was no goal weight entered in the booklet in which my weight was recorded, nor could I find a place where it would be recorded. Maybe I missed it? So...do you simply pick a goal and go for it? If so, I think I will pick one that is five pounds less than I am now, hit that goal, get my LT designation, and never pay for WW again. Yes, that sounds silly and of course I am kidding. To me, not assigning a goal weight sounds like a way to let LT slip away without a whimper. Grandfather in those who presently have the status but this would be the end of anyone new achieving LT. Interesting question, and one that you should ask because I’d like to hear the answer. I’d assume that if/when your weight is within the standard chart you could ask for Lifetime. But you may be right that it is another, quiet, take-away. |
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Post by cathygeha on Mar 31, 2019 7:14:29 GMT
Does this mean that from now on WW is just a place similar to a clubhouse with fees for membership? Nobody would ever be able to come to the weekly whatever they are now called without paying? If so...I can't imagine ANYONE joining all ever!
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Post by susan092907 on Mar 31, 2019 10:48:51 GMT
Very good question. I really hope they haven't taken it away for new members.
If you still can get it, I agree that your strategy should be to pick the highest goal that you can. I did that and then went on to lose and maintain at a much lower personal goal. Though for the last several years I've maintained at just below my official goal, not at my personal goal.
And please let us know when you get the answer.
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Post by Jennifer on Mar 31, 2019 12:04:32 GMT
How do you achieve Lifetime status if there is no goal weight assigned to you by WW? I noticed when I rejoined and went to a meeting that there was no goal weight entered in the booklet in which my weight was recorded, nor could I find a place where it would be recorded. Maybe I missed it? So...do you simply pick a goal and go for it? If so, I think I will pick one that is five pounds less than I am now, hit that goal, get my LT designation, and never pay for WW again. Yes, that sounds silly and of course I am kidding. To me, not assigning a goal weight sounds like a way to let LT slip away without a whimper. Grandfather in those who presently have the status but this would be the end of anyone new achieving LT. The way I understand it is... goal weight is a discussion to be had as you are approaching your healthy weight range...that's a BMI of 20 to 25, or if that is not a fitting range for you, a number outside of that range prescribed by your doctor. "They" don't assign you a goal weight, nor push the topic when you're not anywhere near it, too daunting. I aaplaud them on that. I've never heard or felt in my 22 years of being a member that the goal is to skirt past people who are potential lifetime members, I've always heard WW wants us out there, we are valuable advertisement in and out of the meeting room. With the state our obese country is in, there is an endless supply of people, potential members. |
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Post by diva49 on Mar 31, 2019 12:38:39 GMT
www.weightwatchers.com/us/science-center/BMIwww.weightwatchers.ca/health/asm/calc_healthyweight_int.aspx <--this is from WW-Canada, but pounds-is-pounds At my studio, there is still a "range" based on height/gender and a member can choose any weight in that range. The table is the same as it's always been, but they don't ask for a commitment "up front" - and didn't when I started back with meetings in 10/2015. They want to get you in, lock you in, and keep you. I took the highest number in my "goal range" so I could stop paying. If your - or your doctor's - chosen goal is higher than the upper poundage in that range, a doctor's note is still required. I have just gotten a note raising my upper limit to 160# since my current meds are making my previous goal (155#+2#) sketchy at times, although I have still NOT passed my limit at my monthly weigh-ins  . And one still must lose at least 5# while attending workshops, and practice 6 weeks of "maintenance", and then get the Gold Award (I don't think it's a key any more - just a bar - I'm Lifetime-at/under-goal so I don't earn any of the current bling).
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Post by fullmahina on Mar 31, 2019 12:47:18 GMT
At my studio, there is still a "range" based on height/gender and a member can choose any weight in that range. The table is the same as it's always been, but they don't ask for a commitment "up front" - and didn't when I started back with meetings in 10/2015. They want to get you in, lock you in, and keep you. Thanks MJ. I found it hard to believe that WW had gone so far into the "everything's okay as long as you feel good!" thing that they had discontinued assigning weight goals! So it looks like they are still going with the same old BMI ranges, not adjusting them for age or gender as is the more recent development in BMI calculations. The Mayo Clinic uses gender and waist circumference. |
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Post by diva49 on Mar 31, 2019 12:53:46 GMT
At my studio, there is still a "range" based on height/gender and a member can choose any weight in that range. The table is the same as it's always been, but they don't ask for a commitment "up front" - and didn't when I started back with meetings in 10/2015. They want to get you in, lock you in, and keep you. Thanks MJ. I found it hard to believe that WW had gone so far into the "everything's okay as long as you feel good!" thing that they had discontinued assigning weight goals! So it looks like they are still going with the same old BMI ranges, not adjusting them for age or gender as is the more recent development in BMI calculations. The Mayo Clinic uses gender and waist circumference. Not to my knowledge, fullmahina. That would really screw up their database, no? |
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Post by Kitty on Mar 31, 2019 17:53:03 GMT
My recollection when I originally joined WW back in 1988 was that they didn't ask me to set a goal weight until I got within shouting distance of my range. Back then they did adjust range by age. The top of my range at the time (I was 34) was 135 at 5'4" tall. The over X years of age range was higher, don't recall what. Back then I didn't know what BMI was.
Many years later when I went back ranges were tied to BMI and not age related at all. FWIW, I don't think that there should be higher range for older people. That just seems defeatist to me. Using BMI the top of my range is 146 and that is where I set my WW goal. Really, what WW should do -- what anyone should do -- is have a goal based upon body fat percentage. That is what matters. There is a correlation between body fat and BMI but it isn't perfect. Many people recognize there should be exceptions for low body fat, high muscle people. I agree with that. But, honestly, the bigger problem is that many people on paper fall within the normal BMI range but have high body fat and are closer health wise to people in the obese BMI range. (This would be me...when I was within my WW goal range and free Lifetime, I still had 45% body fat). Of course, it is impractical to actually test body composition so I understand why no one really does it.
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Post by finreporter on Mar 31, 2019 17:54:30 GMT
I think it's what Jae said. Because when I joined years back (2008), goal wasn't even brought up to me until I was at the top of the range for my height. I am sure it's also partly due to what Jae mentioned. They don't want someone who just joined and is nowhere close to the range of goal weights to feel intimidated and overwhelmed. And if the member is joining and not that far from the range maybe it's just their usual practice not to discuss or pick a goal weight at the very first meeting. When I joined, I was 15 lbs from the top of the range. And nothing brought up about goal until I was already at the top.
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Post by borntexan on Mar 31, 2019 19:10:45 GMT
When I first started online only several years ago they set a weight range.For my height the top of my range was 141.At the time I weighed over 300 lbs and I didn't think I would ever reach that so I just started losing and when I finally got down to 150 I decided 141 would be my goal and now I keep a range I call my happy or comfort zone that I try not to go over that is still a healthy BMI.
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Post by finreporter on Mar 31, 2019 19:48:32 GMT
I also like kitty's idea of WW also using body fat measurements to see if the goal is still in the healthy range even if over the BMI healthy range. I had three body fat % tests done at separate times and all showed me having healthy body fat % but in the overweight category for BMI. The nurses who administered the tests had remarked that I must be doing a good amount of strength training to have that result. Of course now I'm 10 lbs over that weight so I doubt I'd be in the healthy body fat range today ; but I did find that information interesting. Especially if WW is going with the more loose construct of health, they should be open to other indicators of healthy weight.
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Post by susiq25679 on Mar 31, 2019 20:04:05 GMT
When I joined (back in 2005), I was given the chart based on BMI. My actual goal weight was not discussed until I was within 5 lbs. of the top end of my range (3 years later).
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Post by zazzles on Mar 31, 2019 21:58:03 GMT
Somehow I don’t see a difference or any magic. If I have the BMI calculated using my height and the weight that WW’s chart says is my highest goal weight, then my BMI calculates to 24.95—exactly the top of the healthy BMI range.
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Post by Lurker on Apr 1, 2019 0:10:36 GMT
What diva49 said. WW is not going to “assign” you a goal weight. And, what Susie said: If you see the range too early in your journey, it may seem impossible to reach.
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