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Post by lani on May 27, 2020 16:15:03 GMT
nashville11, the Minnesota I remember would not have been unleashed by Trump, they would have been appalled. I suppose I was living in my bubble. The last year I lived there was 1973, but my brother and SIL are long-time (50+ years) and they were never-Trumpers from the get go.
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Post by nashville11 on May 27, 2020 16:38:03 GMT
lani , many people in TN are not Trumpers either, and the TN that I grew up in would have had nothing whatsoever to do with Trump. But, those who have fallen under his spell now are loud. Just like the rest of the country, they tend to be louder than those who are not. I think if you took an independent poll of Tennesseans you would find that the majority do not like Trump, and as you say are appalled by his words and actions. That's not to say that he won't win the election here, because most of those same people will likely still vote Republican although some will break away. Many people here (not all by a long shot but a lot) are single issue voters. They vote against abortion, and they will allow that to justify their vote even for Trump because the Republican Party puts the fact that it opposes abortion in its platform. I don't understand being a single issue voter, but it is the way things are. And it doesn't do any good to point out all the contradictions of their pro-life argument when casting a vote for Trump. It is just the way it is. That's not going to change in my lifetime. As frustrated and discouraged as I get, Tennessee is my home. It's where my roots are. I know the goodness that is here, and it saddens me to see it being overshadowed by someone who wouldn't know goodness if it slapped him in the face. Someone who sees kindness as a weakness.
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Post by birdgal on May 27, 2020 17:07:16 GMT
If these people were truly right to life they'd be opposed to war, the death penalty, guns, weapons of mass destruction, toxic chemicals sprayed on gardens and lawns, killing animals for fun, etc.
They are a despicable lot of liars, and cheats. They want to control women and make women the bad guys. When I hear or see 'right to lifers' treating the men who got these women pregnant the same way they treat the women I'll believe they truly care about life. Until then it's not about life. It's about controlling women, keeping them in their place, the same old same old boring story.
Look at the piece of garbage sitting in the Oval Office. We could have had a brilliant politician instead but hey, she was only a woman.
We deserve this jerk. Garbage in - garbage out. We are a joke to the rest of the world. Don't it make you proud?
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Post by finreporter on May 27, 2020 17:09:43 GMT
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Post by finreporter on May 27, 2020 17:23:27 GMT
i can't even with what's going on in minnesota. my heart is so heavy and pit in my stomach. this is why they fucking kneel. THIS. how anyone can deny it and say this country is so great is beyond me.
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Post by nashville11 on May 27, 2020 18:05:54 GMT
Pat, they don't see things the same way you and I do, but I would not agree that they are all "a despicable lot of liars, and cheats." They may be wrong, but I know many who truly believe, and they are good people. They are kind, good, decent people who I think are wrong on the issue, and who I think should take a broader view, but they are not intentionally trying to be malicious or destructive. I've seen them time and time again make real sacrifices to help a neighbor with no questions asked. If you got to know some of them the way I do, I think you would see a lot of different facets that you may not be seeing now. Some of these same people who will vote Republican because of the abortion issue, were also marching for civil rights, to oppose putting children in cages, etc. You can't paint them all with a single brush stroke. It's far too complicated for that. Just my thoughts, and you know I consider you a dear friend. Friends don't always have to agree about everything.
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Post by birdgal on May 27, 2020 18:08:31 GMT
When and if Americans ever get over themselves and stop blabbering on about America, "Right or wrong" and are brave enough to say, "America, let's right Her wrongs" hopefully things will get better. However, I don't have too much hope in hope. Lol.
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Post by DotRen on May 27, 2020 18:37:25 GMT
I feel that the police officers should be charged with murder. They're telling him to "get up and get in the car" while they're kneeling on his neck. It feels like they wanted him to flail/fight so they could beat him up and claim he resisted arrest. They kept their body cameras on, so they obviously felt like what they were doing was "ok".
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Post by finreporter on May 27, 2020 18:54:01 GMT
someone posted pictures and posts from the officer's FB account. he knew what he was doing and had no problems with killing him. in fact he bragged about it afterwards. i hope someone will kneel on his neck in prison until just before he loses consciousness. he deserves to be taunted in prison for the rest of his piece of crap nothing life.
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Post by birdgal on May 27, 2020 18:55:15 GMT
You're right, Joyce. I know better. It wasn't that long ago when Gays and Lesbians were seen as sexual predators when in reality 90% of child sexual abusers were heterosexual males.
I'm sorry. I know all Southerners are not like that any more than all New Yorkers are mobsters.
Here I am doing exactly what the slime in the WH wants. Divide and conquer. Thank you for pointing out my mistakes. That's what real friends do and I appreciate it.
I'm tired of being angry and fearful most of the time. I'm disgusted that so many Americans cheer this nut job on because he's cunning enough to trick them into believing he gives a crap about them or their religious beliefs.
How can they be so clueless? How?
He's an evil monster. Just like all dictators. We like to think Americans are different but we are gullible humans and easy prey.
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Post by birdgal on May 27, 2020 19:07:26 GMT
I'm so over privledged, angry white men and the wimmin who love them.
Murderers who have friends in law enforcement. They know their time is running out. Thugs and criminals is all they are.
They're itching for a civil war. Backwards silly old White men. It's time for them to sit down and shut up.
Times are changing. Deal with it. You are no longer all that.
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Post by finreporter on May 27, 2020 19:10:00 GMT
thanks for sharing. that was really good and yet hard to watch. it pains all of us to have this childish brat as our president.
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Post by finreporter on May 27, 2020 19:12:15 GMT
I'm so over privledged, angry white men and the wimmin who love them. Murderers who have friends in law enforcement. They know their time is running out. Thugs and criminals is all they are. They're itching for a civil war. Backwards silly old White men. It's time for them to sit down and shut up. Times are changing. Deal with it. You are no longer all that. this reminds me of something lily tomlin posted. some funny inspirational quotes. "have the confidence of a mediocre white male."
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Post by birdgal on May 27, 2020 19:32:28 GMT
I love that! Lol. You go, Lily!
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Post by nashville11 on May 27, 2020 21:23:06 GMT
I'm sorry. I know all Southerners are not like that any more than all New Yorkers are mobsters. Oh no, Pat! Surely you're not going to shatter my illusions about New Yorkers. I was hoping you might be able to connect me with the Godfather. LOL! We all have a tendency to lump people into categories even when we know we shouldn't. I'm just as bad about it as anyone else. The same thing comes with thinking all Californians are liberal Hollywood elite or else dot com millionaires. The Internet and social media have some wonderful qualities, but they also make it all too easy to classify groups. I like the fact that this group is very diverse, and that we all accept each other just as we are.
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