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Post by diva49 on Oct 24, 2021 14:20:39 GMT
Avocado and guacamole (if no added sugar) is zero <envisioning the upcoming avocado shortages>
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Post by shragae on Oct 24, 2021 14:22:54 GMT
Ok so I played with my phone and I was able to see the new program! This what I've read so far... SPOILER ALERT 🚩🚩🚩 Yes it's called personal points! The new algorithm distinguishes between unsaturated and saturated fats Foods high in protein and fibre will be lower in points and yes that includes avocado! Weeklies and roll-overs are still there Customised zero food list Earn more points when you do healthy things like drink your water, add spinach to your Omelette The program takes your metabolic rate into consideration. The more zero foods you have the lower your dailies will be and vice versa. There's lots for me to read still, so far it all looks great! Wow! Sounds awesome!!!!!! Thank you so much for sharing! I have a scale that tells me my BMR (basal metabolic rate -- how much your body uses to stay alive, in other words the bare minimum). I wonder if there will be a way to input that info if you have it? BTW mine is about 1325 calories per day (I'm old LOL).
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Post by chook on Oct 24, 2021 14:29:10 GMT
Re-took the quiz to add fish as a protein source, and I lost another daily point ðŸ˜
bit confused about eggs, sure I read it in the digital booklet ‘eggs are free for all’, yet they still have a points value for me, most likely because I didn’t choose them in my eaten most list
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Post by shragae on Oct 24, 2021 14:36:28 GMT
Just a guess -- but current points in the app are based on calories, fat, sugars, etc. Thus the current restaurant and product points that are in the app already have that info in the program. If the calculation becomes personalized it will use the data already in the system (meaning you won't have to madly type in the information for a strip steak at Texas Roadhouse before you order it -- just choose it from the app and it will calculate the points based on your personal profile).
Ergo while "points may vary" based on your personal profile the information already at WW won't disappear -- it is just being used differently by the app.
I'm a former IT product manager at a Fortune 50 company so for any techs here it is simply a database of information with a new query "hitting" the data. Make sense?
I'm excited! This sounds terrific to me. I don't want to lose points (I have 30 on Green ATM) but if I do (and it sounds like I will) some healthier things (like avocados) will be 0 and that will be an adjustment for sure!
I haven't been eating eggs because 1 egg = 2 points on Green and I would eat 2 (4 points) and that just seems too many for a little egg, LOL. If they were "free" I might eat eggs a few times a week. Same is true for oatmeal (which I love) and bran flakes -- avoid them because too high in points that I'd rather save for something else. If they were lower or free I might have them now and again...
Thank you so much for posting this info!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 15:09:14 GMT
Chook! Thank you so much for all that info. Much appreciated.
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Post by knuckles491 on Oct 24, 2021 15:11:33 GMT
Yup, sounds like Freestyle.
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Post by vicki on Oct 24, 2021 15:15:20 GMT
Thank you for posting this. It just seems like a more complicated version of the current plan. One that requires my app to work in the grocery store. I have been at goal for over 10 years and free all that time. I'll continue to go to meetings but may not follow the new plan.
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Post by scwood327 on Oct 24, 2021 15:17:17 GMT
I found this in the Really WW Talk Facebook group:
"The new program has rolled in here in Australia. I've done my assessment. It takes a very short period of time. They ask questions like how often you eat fruits and vegetables. You are asked how you want to count your exercise and I said steps. You get to chose your starch from a short list of things like Potato and other starchy vegetables, grains, rice, oats etc and avocado is included in this list. The protein area they ask you about eggs, fish and shell fish, tofu, beans and lentils, chicken on its own, then combined lamb, pork and beef and I think yoghurt was in that category too. In each category you make your choices.
Some categories you have 2 choices only and some several. The protein one is several. My plan will be almost the same as Purple, which I love. My free foods are eggs, fish, fruit, beans and lentils, oats, potato and sweet potato and peas etc, tofu, non-starching vegetables. They gave me a step target based on what I do for exercise now. I expected it to be more detailed but it was good. You get points for tracking water and eating veggies.
Overall I was so pleased to know that most of what I like to eat I have as zero points and I'm pretty much the same as Purple. It's so liveable for me. I hardly ever eat pork, beef or lamb except for lean bacon now and then. Avocado is 4 points for half a medium and 2 points for 1/4 of a medium for those of you that love avocado - I don't like avocado. 10 raw almonds is 2 points. This is for me in Australia and I assume everyone everywhere? It worked out that I have 17 weeklies and 41 dailies.
I am a little confused with the + next to things. Here is what I mean. I checked a tuna quiche recipe I created myself that serves 4. It's 2 points a serve. But when I checked my combo recipes which included mashed potato and non-starchy vegetables it has "+2 points from 2 serves of non-starchy veggies". It's not counting 2 extra points but it must be +2 points must be added to my dailies I assume for eating non-starchy veggies. It will take a couple of weeks to get used to but I don't expect too many dramas settling in.
There are questions about do you like every week to drink alcohol, eat sweets regularily, salty snacks etc. I thought it was a good balanced assesstment of questions. I think I will really enjoy it. I eat veggies most days, pasta not often, rice maybe once a fortnight but potatoes and sweet potatoes most nights and I love chicken and canned tuna and have eggs 2-3 times a week, so it's turned out great. I was worried I'd have to count too many things but like I said, my Plan is pretty much the same as Purple. I think you will all be very pleased with the assessment. when you get to do yours. I don't think anyone will be too put out by it being so different to what you are doing now and be disappointed."
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Post by chook on Oct 24, 2021 15:37:12 GMT
I’m going to re-take the quiz and try and match it as much as possible to the previous green plan. After a little bit of thought, just because you can choose 3 things from a list of things doesn’t mean you HAVE to choose 3. I’ve picked things simply because they were in the list, NOT because I wanted them to be zero in my plan. Some of the lists you can only choose 2 things.
I had so much trouble with Freestyle, that I immediately disliked this plan, but like I said, am going to go back and not choose as many options. I need more structure.
Update:
Ok, so out of the list of proteins, I had to choose 1 otherwise I couldn’t progress through the quiz. I chose chicken/turkey. All other freebies were left unselected.
I still lose 3 daily points and 7 Weeklies, but not sure how my old favourite foods have changed as they will now need re-calculating. Most of them were saved in the App BEFORE all nutritional info had to be punched in.
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Post by linda72 on Oct 24, 2021 15:58:05 GMT
Thank you for keeping us informed of what you are seeing today. We appreciate it!
ETA: I changed my WW site to "International" and I went to the UK site. Nothing has changed there. But, when I changed it to Australia, the site had a different page and asked if I wanted to take the Assessment. I didn't go any further because one of the first questions was for my name. I'll wait until we get that here in November.
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Post by diva49 on Oct 24, 2021 16:13:51 GMT
it is simply a database of information with a new query "hitting" the data. Make sense? I think a lot will depend upon how many variables have been programmed in and how thoroughly the programmers have tested the various permutations. You may have seen past references to a lack of confidence in the tech side of WW. Just as a side note - in the app this morning (on my iPhone, not the computer) I noted that my Weeklies varied (on the FIRST day of several WW weeks, that in the Tracker is SATURDAY) from 28 to 35 to 44, 47, 49, 50, 52, and even a -10. This week, I seem to have 32 to start my week. Eh?!?!?
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Post by linda72 on Oct 24, 2021 16:23:22 GMT
I got an email from WW this morning and the main topic was all about FIBER! I guess they are getting us ready for what's coming. diva49, on my WW app, my week starts on Wednesday and my Weekly is 21. I don't know if that's a change.
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Post by scwood327 on Oct 24, 2021 16:31:43 GMT
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Post by DebDoesWW on Oct 24, 2021 16:31:48 GMT
You know they are working on things here because I just had to log back in, it always keeps me logged in.
Thank you so much everyone for the information!
Sounds like that was what the whole ranking food thing has been about, just the same old same old, fish, chicken eggs etc have a high "healthfulness data ranking" so here you go, eat up, and mixed in with a bit of CORE from the old days. 🙄 Usually by this time frame they completely revamp the program to encourage new members and to bring back the ones that aren't happy with the current plan. Mindy.strikes.again.
At least healthy fats are being considered now, that was a major complaint with SP regarding, nuts, avocados, etc. Of course they could have just tweaked that years ago on SP 🙄
This is about as exciting as when she changed the name of everything, meetings, leaders, WEIGHT WATCHERS, What a let down.
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Post by DebDoesWW on Oct 24, 2021 16:36:18 GMT
Thanks for that link scwood! Looking at it it reminds me of homework assignment that was titled "tweak the current program and make us sound more exciting in 100 words or less" Seriously this is the new program?!
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