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Post by Jennifer on Dec 17, 2017 13:18:00 GMT
In my meeting, at one point the leader, explained what the pocket guide was and some examples of when it might be used, then asked if any members in the room felt it would be useful to them. About 1/3 raised their hands and one of the receptionists handed them out.
Really, no biggie.
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Post by lmenglish on Dec 17, 2017 14:53:03 GMT
jamescat1, exactly. I did not know about the pocket guide without being told here. Neither leader mentioned there was one. Got mine and they have WiFi at my center
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Post by jamescat1 on Dec 18, 2017 1:03:03 GMT
jamescat1, exactly. I did not know about the pocket guide without being told here. Neither leader mentioned there was one. Got mine and they have WiFi at my center The center isn’t close especially with everything else I’m doing. I will do without until next month. I’m not following Freestyle but an disappointed to have paid and not received all of the materials.
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Post by chessielover on Dec 18, 2017 2:45:41 GMT
2 weeks ago, I asked for the pocket guide and was told there wasn't one. If not for this message board, I would have believed it. Yesterday, I asked a different person, and she happily gave me one. The things corporations get stingy with never ceases to amaze me, and it isn't like members do not pay for these materials in their fees.
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Post by Jennifer on Dec 18, 2017 13:57:18 GMT
As I understand it the pocket guide is not "part of the materials", it's an extra piece available to those members who do not have or use the digital tools.
Those of us who have digital tools already have this information. I would think it would be a normal conversation in the meeting room as the leader is talking about use of the digital tools, that if there's someone in the meeting that does not have a computer, that does not have a smartphone that they would say hey how am I supposed to do this? I have to believe the meeting leader or the receptionist would say we do have a small pocket guide that has several hundred Foods with their points that we can give you.
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Post by pourthecoffee2018 on Dec 18, 2017 19:53:38 GMT
It seems to me, we are all paying members and should get a pocket guide. To tell paying members they can only get one if they don’t have a computer is ridiculous. Some of us don’t have our cell phones with us all the time. I don’t always carry around my tablet. And those who don’t have laptops are not going to carry around their full screen computers! As it is, I had to lie and say my cell phone broke in order to get a pocket guide I will never do that again to get the material I want. WW is doing very well financially again. Oprah made several millions off her initial investment! To be stingy with pocket Guides isn’t even laughable. It is sad.
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Post by wildcat on Dec 18, 2017 20:36:29 GMT
If you want one you should be able to get it, but there's no reason they should hand them out to everyone - that's incredibly wasteful of both money and natural resources. In my meeting of about 40 people there was one person who wanted it. I don't expect them to hand out the materials they have on diabetes or vegetarianism or maintenance or nursing to everyone either.
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Post by pourthecoffee2018 on Dec 18, 2017 20:46:16 GMT
Wildcat, I respectfully disagree. We are not talking about pregnancy, food preferences (vegetarianism), ori illness here. We are talking about basic program material, which the pocket guide is. And even if WW does not automatically give them out, the option of just getting one if a member asks, should be there. The member should not have to lie about broken technology (like I did) to get one.
And while we’re on the subject, I know a lot of people who are way more savvy tech than me, who just don’t want to be around technology all the time. If they are dining out, God forbid without a cell phone, why should they have to wait until they get home to get information? Maybe they want the information NOW, so they can plan their next meal.
Not incredibly wasteful at all to a company who pays Oprah God knows how much to tell us on commercials that she eats bread.
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Post by Jennifer on Dec 18, 2017 21:32:22 GMT
Hummm so this anger is not about the little bitty pocket guide, it seems to be about money and Oprah.lol
FYI as I understand it, she did not get paid to do the commercials.
I'm sure no one has to lie to get a pocket guide, they aren't under lock and key. I see them sitting on the counter with the weeklies.
I'm also sure ww doesn't want members to get their panties in a wad over a little book, they are handing out hard copies of materials to online only members, inviting them to sit in on a meeting for free, offering complementary weigh ins. That doesn't sound stingy or cheap to me. They aren't trying to make members angry and certainly not over a pocket guide.
I do agree on it being wasteful to hand out to everyone and that is most likely why they made the decision not to.
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Post by pourthecoffee2018 on Dec 18, 2017 21:42:02 GMT
Ah! How did I know that the topic would be diverted from pocket guide to Oprah?
Jae, we are having a respectful difference of opinion. That is all. I happen to like Oprah,, and although I certainly did think her bread commercial was silly, it didn’t anger me. But I did make a point, and I had read that she did indirectly get paid for the commercials, as an extra clause in her contract. But whatever. I won’t be commenting anymore, as I see this is turning into something larger than it was meant to be. Oh, and I did have to lie to get my pocket guide. Why in the world would I make that up.
Have a nice day.
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Post by zazzles on Dec 19, 2017 1:16:33 GMT
If you want one you should be able to get it, but there's no reason they should hand them out to everyone - that's incredibly wasteful of both money and natural resources. In my meeting of about 40 people there was one person who wanted it. I don't expect them to hand out the materials they have on diabetes or vegetarianism or maintenance or nursing to everyone either. WC—they have special materials for diabetics? Where's mine? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Never heard anyone mention this. And even if WW does not automatically give them out, the option of just getting one if a member asks, should be there. The member should not have to lie about broken technology (like I did) to get one. Absolutely. I'm also sure ww doesn't want members to get their panties in a wad over a little book, they are handing out hard copies of materials to online only members, inviting them to sit in on a meeting for free, offering complementary weigh ins. That doesn't sound stingy or cheap to me. They aren't trying to make members angry and certainly not over a pocket guide. I believe the problem doesn't lie with WW directly trying to deprive anyone of a pocket guide. I believe it lies with certain individual staff. I have seen many instances when certain staff believe it is their charter to save WW money by placing their own policies on top of WW's policies. This may involve area directors as well. For example, when the free eTools for Lifetime-at-goal members came along, after a couple of months my leader and her receptionist both started trying to deny us a card every month, telling us that the code we had received the previous month was good for 8 weeks. I disagreed and they dug their heels in. I finally made them pull out a card and I showed them right in the print on the card the language that told the member they were entitled to a new card/code each.and.every.month. They grudgingly gave out the cards. But I am sure they genuinely thought they were saving WW money and would not be surprised if their area director had come up with that rule.
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Post by zazzles on Dec 19, 2017 1:17:43 GMT
One more thing...there was no WiFi im my meeting room today, nor anything posted suggesting there would be.
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Post by linda72 on Dec 19, 2017 1:23:35 GMT
there was no WiFi im my meeting room today Boo, zazzles. You need to whine and ask when you will get that!
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Post by vicki on Dec 19, 2017 12:35:16 GMT
They didn't mention it but gave me one when I asked for it. They asked that I not mention it to other members.
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Post by wildcat on Dec 19, 2017 13:14:04 GMT
WC—they have special materials for diabetics? Where's mine? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Never heard anyone mention this. For some reason I thought my mom got something a few years ago when she was struggling keeping her blood sugar stable while doing WW, but I may very well be wrong. My guess is that they have materials but they kept them a secret from you so they could give them all to Oprah. (No seriously, I really may have imagined that they had diabetic materials.)
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