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Post by lani on Aug 29, 2019 18:25:25 GMT
Toxic Dumpster Fire considering blocking $250 million of aid to Ukraine. Of course, wouldn't want to upset Putin.
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Post by nashville11 on Aug 29, 2019 19:28:56 GMT
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Post by luanne on Aug 29, 2019 20:07:33 GMT
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Post by nashville11 on Aug 30, 2019 1:11:25 GMT
President George W. Bush's chief speechwriter, Michael Gerson, has a message for people who are excusing President Trump's racism: "I had fully intended to ignore President Trump’s latest round of racially charged taunts against an African American elected official, and an African American activist, and an African American journalist and a whole city with a lot of African Americans in it. I had every intention of walking past Trump’s latest outrages and writing about the self-destructive squabbling of the Democratic presidential field, which has chosen to shame former vice president Joe Biden for the sin of being an electable, moderate liberal. But I made the mistake of pulling James Cone’s 'The Cross and the Lynching Tree' off my shelf — a book designed to shatter convenient complacency. Cone recounts the case of a white mob in Valdosta, Ga., in 1918 that lynched an innocent man named Haynes Turner. Turner’s enraged wife, Mary, promised justice for the killers. The sheriff responded by arresting her and then turning her over to the mob, which included women and children. According to one source, Mary was 'stripped, hung upside down by the ankles, soaked with gasoline, and roasted to death. In the midst of this torment, a white man opened her swollen belly with a hunting knife and her infant fell to the ground and was stomped to death.' God help us. It is hard to write the words. This evil — the evil of white supremacy, resulting in dehumanization, inhumanity and murder — is the worst stain, the greatest crime, of U.S. history. It is the thing that nearly broke the nation. It is the thing that proved generations of Christians to be vicious hypocrites. It is the thing that turned normal people into moral monsters, capable of burning a grieving widow to death and killing her child. When the president of the United States plays with that fire or takes that beast out for a walk, it is not just another political event, not just a normal day in campaign 2020. It is a cause for shame. It is the violation of martyrs’ graves. It is obscene graffiti on the Lincoln Memorial. It is, in the eyes of history, the betrayal — the re-betrayal — of Haynes and Mary Turner and their child. And all of this is being done by an ignorant and arrogant narcissist reviving racist tropes for political gain, indifferent to the wreckage he is leaving, the wounds he is ripping open. Like, I suspect, many others, I am finding it hard to look at resurgent racism as just one in a series of presidential offenses or another in a series of Republican errors. Racism is not just another wrong. The Antietam battlefield is not just another plot of ground. The Edmund Pettus Bridge is not just another bridge. The balcony outside Room 306 at the Lorraine Motel is not just another balcony. As U.S. history hallows some causes, it magnifies some crimes. What does all this mean politically? It means that Trump’s divisiveness is getting worse, not better. He makes racist comments, appeals to racist sentiments and inflames racist passions. The rationalization that he is not, deep down in his heart, really a racist is meaningless. Trump’s continued offenses mean that a large portion of his political base is energized by racist tropes and the language of white grievance. And it means — whatever their intent — that those who play down, or excuse, or try to walk past these offenses are enablers. Some political choices are not just stupid or crude. They represent the return of our country’s cruelest, most dangerous passion. Such racism indicts Trump. Treating racism as a typical or minor matter indicts us." — Michael Gerson
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Post by nashville11 on Aug 30, 2019 1:13:25 GMT
When I read the quote above from Gerson, I literally felt sick to my stomach. The unspeakable hatred this piece of filth in the White House is unleashing is abominable.
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Post by amyrs on Aug 30, 2019 11:54:51 GMT
Joyce how well written with such horrible history of racism in our history. We have to get Trump out of the White House. I found out why is wrong with my left leg. My knee is leaking water into tissue and hurting my leg. The technician who was very smart on the ultrasound found it. now the Doctor intrepid the test will give my doctor the results. I have to stay off my knee which is hard.
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Post by nashville11 on Aug 30, 2019 12:30:26 GMT
amyrs glad they have at least found the problem with your knee. I hope your doctor will have the solution. Staying off your knee is hard. Do you think it may require surgery? I hope not.
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Post by nashville11 on Aug 30, 2019 12:50:06 GMT
What do you think about this criticism of Biden and his combining/inflating stories as he campaigns? From what I am understanding, the war story he is telling about pinning the medal on the Marine has bits of other instances woven into it. In and of itself, I don't see that as a problem. Evidently those things did happen, just not all at the same time. I see it as making a point. BUT, and that's a big but (no pun intended LOL) we are all very sensitive to a President who lies continuously so anything that is not completely factual becomes a real issue of trust. That sort of thing in the past would have been fine. But now not so fine. Biden and his team need to recognize that this is a new day of campaigning. It is going to take a lot to build any trust back into government. So starting out with exaggerations or not exactly factual stories even while harmless in intent and serving a purpose, doesn't help us get to that place of trust. Every word uttered by any candidate is going to be scrutinized carefully. Biden has a tendency sometimes to speak from the heart rather than from the head, and that may turn out to be a serious liability for him. I hope his campaign staff and speech writers are paying close attention. Not that Biden is my first choice. I don't have a first choice yet. I just want whoever is most likely to win.
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Post by lani on Aug 30, 2019 15:06:38 GMT
nashville11 , I happen to be re-reading a book that encompasses a lot the history of racial violence in the South. The actions in the piece you quoted were far from rare. Folks would come from miles around to witness these barbaric acts. For one documented lynching and burning people were brought in by special trains to "enjoy" the spectacle. Jesus wept.
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Post by nashville11 on Aug 30, 2019 15:28:14 GMT
nashville11 , I happen to be re-reading a book that encompasses a lot the history of racial violence in the South. The actions in the piece you quoted were far from rare. Folks would come from miles around to witness these barbaric acts. For one documented lynching and burning people were brought in by special trains to "enjoy" the spectacle. Jesus wept. lani, while racial violence has occurred throughout the country, there is no getting away from the fact that it is a terrible stain on the very soul of the South. Even as I have thought race relations were improving (prior to Trump), there was still a lot of distrust (not sure if that's the right word or not) between blacks and whites throughout the south. Trump has brought everything back to the forefront, and made hate an acceptable to many people across the country and certainly that's been felt here in the south as well. Just recently a group I recently joined here in my county was able to place a historic marker on the courthouse lawn about a lynching that occurred here in my town in the 1800s. There are a lot of people both black and white working hard to improve race relations throughout the south, but Trump makes that job harder everyday.
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Post by lani on Aug 30, 2019 16:17:39 GMT
All I can see positive about this is that it has brought some unacknowledged truths to the surface. Unacknowledged by people who have not experienced it or were unaware of it, I mean. It is everyone's choice how to deal with it.
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Post by birdgal on Aug 30, 2019 20:43:38 GMT
Donald Trump is a racist. An evil and despicable waste of flesh. I put the people who support him in the same category. They wink and not at him and are too stupid to realize he doesn't give a rat's about them. He's using them and they adore him. Stupid fools.
Too stupid to know he would turn on them in the blink of an eye. If he could he would probably torture and murder those who disagree with him.
He is evil! Not bad or mean or simple. He is cruel and evil and he is the president of the US.
What does that say about US? He needs to be bound, gagged, and put away for life. There are other options but I won't put them in writing. I like this place too much.
Evil that is not destroyed will spread and thrive. Horrorible things from our disgusting and disgraceful past will find a comfy place at our table. We will repeat the cruelty, the horror, and the sins of our past while we are wrapped in the flag and holding up a cross!
Don't fool yourself by saying it could never happen here. It already has happened here and it can come around again. Especially when the stain in the Oval Office desperately needs a distraction.Angry,and fearful mostly White men, who seem to believe they are king of the mountain, will do anything to keep their make believe throne.
They are so easy to manipulate. Pathetic fools. Deadly and dangerous fools.
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Post by nashville11 on Aug 30, 2019 22:32:04 GMT
. . . Especially when the stain in the Oval Office desperately needs a distraction.Angry,and fearful mostly White men, who seem to believe they are king of the mountain, will do anything to keep their make believe throne. That worries me, Pat. I think he is getting panicky and doesn't think a win in the election is a sure thing. He hasn't kept any of the promises he made to his followers, and the economy is looking like a downturn. His trade war with China is beginning to hit the pocketbooks of his followers. He's starting to get nervous, and when people like him get nervous that's dangerous. I would not put it past him at all to start a war to try and win an election. He could care less what that war would cost in terms of life and limb, but if it would help get him elected I think he would do it in a heartbeat and wouldn't even care who the war was against.
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Post by nashville11 on Aug 30, 2019 22:34:42 GMT
On a really snarky note, who wants to volunteer to go toss paper towels if Mar-a-Lago gets hit by this hurricane?
I know, I'm sending myself to stand in the corner now. I would NOT want anyone to be hurt, but the visual just popped into my mind uncontrollably. Hanging my head now in shame.
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Post by birdgal on Aug 30, 2019 23:48:03 GMT
He probably has the place insured with more money than all of us together could even imagine.
If the place is destroyed he will simply have a bigger and better one go up.
Good times or bad times he makes money. Then he looses it.
He doesn't have a half an ounce of feeling for the place. Heck, he doesn't have feelings period.
He's a human monster who represents the USA to the rest of the world.
Come on. Feel the pride with me, will You?
I'm so sick of the 24/7 reporting of everything this evil buffoon does.
Sick of him, his cronies, and his happy little idiotic worshippers.
I worry we have lost our souls and our minds. Not misplaced them. Lost them forever. But that's just me. I had a dear Friend tell me if I didn't have anything to worry about, I'd go out and find something. Lol.
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