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Post by chattycathy on May 5, 2019 21:03:27 GMT
Mike, those are some wonderful Ideas. I might return as a member if something like that were to be be available at my meeting place.
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Post by susan092907 on May 5, 2019 21:18:00 GMT
zazzles, Thanks for your reply. That sounds like such a great set up that your group has worked out. I love your idea about WW studios as drop in "cafes". I could see myself participating in something like that. I never buy WW products, so I wouldn't be helping their profit margin, but I could see how many people would in that situation, as your group does.
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Post by zazzles on May 5, 2019 22:34:04 GMT
I could see myself participating in something like that. I never buy WW products, so I wouldn't be helping their profit margin, but I could see how many people would in that situation, as your group does. Just think how it might work out if they offered skinny lattés, coffee, tea, etc!
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Post by susan092907 on May 6, 2019 0:00:27 GMT
Just think how it might work out if they offered skinny lattés, coffee, tea, etc! I was thinking that too! I'd definitely sit for a while and chat and buy a beverage.
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Post by bbbearsmom on May 6, 2019 1:13:02 GMT
Jennifer, This is my third time on WW, first time maintaining. When I started this time I knew I needed to maintain my weight loss (losing weight was a given once I was on fire) for the rest of my life due to health reasons. I thought back over my two regains. What I came up with was lack of support and my short-circuited thinking. Therefore I made a commitment to myself to keep going to meetings and I do the reviews of the plan in the book "The Beck Diet Solution" by Dr. Judith Beck. We don't talk about the plan in the meetings we talk about the behaviors you need to be successful For awhile I thought I could get by with just going the first meeting of the month but I get winter depression and tend to portion creep in the fall and winter. Therefore I decided to go to meetings every week to cut down on my struggling. Meetings keep me in the right frame of mind.
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Post by Kitty on May 6, 2019 1:16:43 GMT
I'm curious, what exactly do you get out of the meetings if you're not following the plan? The obvious answer I'd think would be support... but really, what support is so beneficial to you that you're attending a meeting about a plan you don't follow? ("You" as a general term) No digs here, I'm really curious. I stayed on the exchange plan for years after ww changed to points, it never occurred to me to attend meetings during that time, I didn't feel I belonged there. WW meetings gave me many things for a long time and they had nothing to do with following the specific program. 1. Accountability - Having that Weigh in each week (even when I was free LT I usually went each week) kept me focused on the week and having a good weigh in. For a long time, if I didn't come to weigh in I was very prone to just getting off track late in the week and saying I would get back on track next week. This is why WW Online didn't work for me. At this point, I don't actually need this. It is sort of nice to have I guess but comes with negatives. For example, back then I would never eat out on Thursday or Friday unless it was an emergency because I was weighing in Saturday. At times that distorted my eating. Now, that I don't weigh in I pay more attention to my weekly weight average and I can eat out any day I want to... 2. I liked the fact that WW was the one place I went to during the week where I felt everyone there had a shared goal -- to lose weight or maintain weight loss. While I wasn't always following the specific plan, WW has never been about the specific plan. It is about eating in a sustainable way where you have a lot of flexibility to eat any food, but have to control portions. You can control portions different ways -- by points, or by calories or by restricting what you eat. For example, the people on Simply Filling were focusing more restricting what they ate (although no food was forbidden), some people (well, most) focused on points and I focused on calories. I always felt the big picture was more important than the minutiae. 3. Being reminded of the behavioral aspects of WW kept those things in the forefront of my mind. The meeting was a good reminder of what I needed to be doing. Without the meeting it was easy to just drift away (now that I don't usually go to meetings I get that from places like here and Half Size Me). 4. I also felt that, well, I brought a lot to the meeting. The leader I had was very appreciative of me as a lifetime member and felt I was helpful to the meeting. She even had me come and speak to one of her other meetings once. I felt that my contributions to the meeting were sometimes helpful to others -- they often said they were (also those of my DH, also a LT member). I liked being able to help the other members. Right now I am not attending mostly because I have changed and WW has changed. I don't need the external accountability as much and I have found other substitutes for the meeting.
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Post by Laura M on May 6, 2019 17:18:37 GMT
They seem to be clearly gearing up to make a plan change at the end of the year (not earlier) as they talked about their 2020 innovation. Mindy said they have been working on for two years. So it was in the works when Freestyle started. Therefore, I expect they may make some changes but I don't expect them to get rid of zero point foods. She said that more people are tracking food and activity (she attributes that to the WellnessWins) and she says people have really embraced Zero Point foods. I've always said from the Freestyle get go, that they were slowly gearing everyone towards Simply Filling. I'm guessing they'll be more "zero point" foods added to the list. I'm hoping that with that they'll provide some guidelines that are more than "eat all you want until you are satisfied, not stuffed".
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Post by alias123 on May 7, 2019 1:13:58 GMT
I've always said from the Freestyle get go, that they were slowly gearing everyone towards Simply Filling. I'm guessing they'll be more "zero point" foods added to the list. I'm hoping that with that they'll provide some guidelines that are more than "eat all you want until you are satisfied, not stuffed" Another option is for WW to go with Intermittent Fasting - IF or Time Restricted Eating - TRE. Simply give an eating window for zero point foods. Be it 12:12 or 16:8 I just read in The Circadian Code: Lose Weight, Supercharge Your Energy, and Transform Your Health from Morning to Midnight by Panda PhD, Satchin, that when given the same amount of calories and food macros mice on a shorter eating window (10 hours) did not gain weight or exhibit disease. The mice that were allowed to eat same number of calories when they wished gained weight and got sick. www.salk.edu/news-release/eating-in-10-hour-window-can-override-disease-causing-genetic-defects-nurture-health/Of course we are not mice but I found this to be a really interesting field of study. I don't have the book with me at the moment but I read that scientist studying the circadian code won a Nobel Prize in 2017. www.biologists.com/nobel_circadian_rhythm/
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Post by zazzles on May 20, 2019 17:14:10 GMT
Here are a couple of tradmark/image applications filed by WW on April 23, 2019:
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Post by lavonm on May 20, 2019 17:21:10 GMT
Here are a couple of tradmark/image applications filed by WW on April 23, 2019: I wonder if WW is teaming up with them. kurbo.com/
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Post by DotRen on May 20, 2019 17:25:12 GMT
Looks like they're using the same basic premise as NOOM in all this.
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Post by zazzles on May 20, 2019 17:34:53 GMT
I wonder if WW is teaming up with them. kurbo.com/Hmmm. Didn’t think to check for a web site. I wouldn’t expect WW to file for a trademark for business they don’t own; perhaps they are acquiring them?
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Post by zazzles on May 20, 2019 17:37:22 GMT
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Post by lavonm on May 20, 2019 19:01:28 GMT
I wonder if WW is teaming up with them. kurbo.com/Hmmm. Didn’t think to check for a web site. I wouldn’t expect WW to file for a trademark for business they don’t own; perhaps they are acquiring them? Acquiring them makes more sense.
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Post by lavonm on May 20, 2019 19:02:14 GMT
They should've done that ages ago. Thanks for the link.
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