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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 11:27:39 GMT
In one of my UK groups, a gal posted this... it is what I have been thinking , and what I was trying to say... but she said it in a way that hits it right on the nose....
"I’ve realised that the Flex plan has been so cleverly designed that people are thinking it’s the new zero foods that are the best bit. In fact, the new zero foods were quite low anyway so I think it’s actually the reduction of the daily allowance that is the best bit. This is what has made everyone reassess what they are eating and start making some amazing looking food that not only tastes good but is also good for you, reducing the amount of processed rubbish from your diet. To start off with everyone will concentrate on the new zero stuff but eventually it will just be good clean eating and keeping to your points. WW are helping us to change our mindset. Well done WW"
alas.... moving towards simply filling /clean eating
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Post by wildcat on Nov 22, 2017 13:14:21 GMT
jeanie, I think it's great that you are giving Simply Filling a try. I learned so much about portions and satiety on SFT that I think it's a very worthwhile endeavor even if you end up going back to points. In fact I was planning to go back on it, but then when I learned about the direction of the new plan I decided I'd try that before making the change. Good luck!
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Post by vicki on Nov 22, 2017 13:34:55 GMT
vicki, It includes all 0 point foods including fruits and vegetables. Yesterday, I didn't have fruit (I don't love fruit) but I had a large salad for dinner which had a lot of veggies but it was low calorie veggies - greens, tomatoes, carrots, bell peppers. Now on some days I might have corn or berries which would add calories but not points. Because I use 300 - 400 calories on free food I can on use 26 daily and 21 weeklies if I want to average a little less than 1/2 lb a week loss.
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Post by Kitty on Nov 22, 2017 18:06:14 GMT
One reason that I think I will end up liking the new program is that for me it solves some of the problems with Simply Filling which was just too restrictive for me. For example, I tried SF one time and couldn't do it as I eating a serving of nuts every day which are 5 points. Over a week that is more than my entire weekly points. I understand that nuts have calories so I understand why they weren't foods that didn't have to be counted.
On the other hand, nuts are super good for you. I was reading an article recently which was talking about dietary factors associated with mortality. One of the tops contributors to mortality was inadequate intake of nuts and seeds. So, I am not about to give up the daily nuts (at least an ounce of day was what was felt to be optimal). But, this was impossible to do with SF. But, with the new plan it is easy to do. I can use my SP primarily for healthy foods that have points (plus some snacks that are less healthy). It is enough points that I don't have to give up healthy foods due to inadequate points. But, I can already tell this week that I am eating healthier than I was before.
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Post by lvh131 on Nov 22, 2017 18:24:17 GMT
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Post by Kitty on Nov 22, 2017 19:28:22 GMT
lvh131, Well - I don't always eat healthy food.....
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Post by lesliea on Nov 23, 2017 0:12:57 GMT
Kitty , I agree with you 100%. I see this has a bit of a hybrid plan. I really like SF but I too find it restrictive. This change should give me the option to eat primarily SF, but have the dailies to add some variety to my diet. I am fine with using points for sweet potatoes and whole wheat pasta that would be free on SF, but I will love having the daily points for a glass a wine in the evening. I know that is not nearly as healthy as the nuts This is exactly why I'm so excited about the new plan. I WANT to do SF but it's too restrictive with only 28 weeklies. It was easy on PP with 49. I'm like Kitty - I like to eat nuts, or other healthy higher fat foods that are higher in points, and I think this new plan will let me do that.
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Post by pourthecoffee2018 on Nov 23, 2017 0:20:40 GMT
Hi everyone, I thought I would post now since I’ve been following the updated plan and am losing at a better rate of loss than I’ve had in years. This is the perfect plan for me. For me, it’s the perfect combination of counting points and Simply Filling. I just couldn’t lose on Simply Filling. On the one hand it was too restrictive, and on the other hand I overate the allowed pastas, rice etc. For some reason this new plan is the best of both worlds for me. Because I am not an active person, and I am a volume eater, I chose to folliow the low end of dailies and weeklies. This is not restrictive at all for me. I am enjoying basing my meals on a lot of zero foods, and I get to save rollovers and weeklies for when I need them. Tomorrow we are eating out Thanksgiving with friends and I have a total of 26 combined rollover/weeklies saved to enjoy myself. And I’m sure I won’t use all of them.
I’d like to add one thing, and I know many won’t agree with this, but this is how I feel . I date back to when Weight Watchers had food exchanges (they called them Selections). I stayed slim for years on that plan. I now realize why. The food was basic and simple. Back then, the word diet wasn’t a dirty word. We knew we had to eat a bit differently in order to lose weight, and that was considered the norm. The way I’m eating now is so close to the way I ate then. Plus I can save points for the occasional treat.
Well, for those who don’t like the new plan, I sincerely hope we all find the peace of following a plan that works and that we enjoy. In the meantime, a very Happy Thanksgiving to all of us!
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Post by chook on Nov 23, 2017 4:56:55 GMT
Flex coming to Australia starting Sunday 27th November.
From what I’ve seen on the UK Facebook page, I’m interested in giving this a go and think it could work for me....but it will all hinge on knowing exactly what foods are on the free list....and my ability not to overeat the zero point foods. My 6 month membership is still valid and so I can attend a meeting sometime next week, but should know a lot more on Monday which is my WI day and will be when my App crosses over to the new plan.
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Post by azcristi on Nov 23, 2017 5:13:00 GMT
Aren't lentils high in protein? You can still eat beef or other meat, but just count the points. Also, I just learned that SHRIMP was super high in cholesterol. Someone on fb lost over 100 pounds and was excited to see her doctor and go over her lab results, only to find her cholesterol was through the roof. She ate a LOT of shrimp (and chicken) during her weight loss.
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Post by zazzles on Nov 23, 2017 15:22:15 GMT
I date back to when Weight Watchers had food exchanges (they called them Selections). I stayed slim for years on that plan. I now realize why. The food was basic and simple. Back then, the word diet wasn’t a dirty word. We knew we had to eat a bit differently in order to lose weight, and that was considered the norm. The way I’m eating now is so close to the way I ate then. My experience dates back even earlier than yours, to the 1st revision of the original plan. And I am struck at how this revision seems to be the confluence of the basics and choice. I, too, think I will be able to live with this plan revision more happily than SmartPoints 1.
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Post by jeanie on Nov 23, 2017 15:38:31 GMT
wildcat, thank you!!! pourthecoffee2018, I actually ran across that particular set of WW material on ebay the other day. I always go look at WW stuff to see what's going on lol... I like looking at all the materials from years past on there.
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Post by pourthecoffee2018 on Nov 23, 2017 17:20:53 GMT
Zazzles, yes! It is the perfect combination- at least for me anyway. Much to my shock, I was finding that when I planned my meals around the zero foods - or even low point foods like lean lunch meats, etc. I had a lot of points left over. So I take full advantage of rolling over those 4 points that we're allowed. And having weeklies added on really gives us the flexibility to save for treats, etc. Zazzles, I do remember the very early plans - wow, I hadn't thought of them in years - where we just had our lists of foods to eat and the correct amounts. I hope you enjoy the plan as much as I am. I'm going to my meeting on 12/3 for all the new hard copy material.
jeanie, it's funny you mention the old materials. I was just on amazon, looking at the older Weight Watchers cookbooks, lamenting that I never should have gotten rid of them because they'd be perfect for me now. I guess what goes around, comes around...ha ha!
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Post by pourthecoffee2018 on Nov 23, 2017 17:31:53 GMT
Rene, I just read your post. I think you are right. I am sure lowering my dailies from 30 to 23 points has made a great difference, even with the zero foods now allowed. Also, I have cut my weeklies from 35 to 14 (the lowest we're allowed), which seems like a drastic cut, but I am a volume eater and it was a personal decision to keep all my points at the low end, and with all the good protein, fruit and veg I am eating (peas! Corn!)...., plus rollovers, I find I don't miss those extra weeklies at all. I am very grateful to WW, because I've finally found a plan that is perfect for me. Yes, this version really is new and improved. Those who allow themselves even more weeklies than I'm allowing myself will surely not feel deprived at all.
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Post by Kitty on Nov 23, 2017 19:38:08 GMT
azcristi, It is highly unlike that someone's cholesterol went through the roof solely due to eating food such as shrimp with high cholesterol. The type of things in diet that raise cholesterol is not so much the cholesterol in the food. It is primarily saturated fats and trans fats. Overweight tends to raise cholesterol. And, some people have high cholesterol due to heredity. I'm not saying that cholesterol in food never has an effect. I guess in some situations really high consumption might make a difference for some people. But shrimp is very low in sat. fat and total fat. So if the person's cholesterol went up you have to look at the total diet not just one food. pourthecoffee2018, One thing I find working on following the new plan is that total points eaten really depends on the amount of zero point foods you are having. We are having duck and ham for Thanksgiving so I am basically using the whole weeks weekly points today. On the other hand on a Day when I ate salmon and corn I ate over 1200 calories and ended up rolling over points. On another day I ate similar points and was under 900 calories.
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